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Hot Rods Patina or paint

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jeff Pandora, Jul 29, 2020.

  1. Paint

  2. Patina

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  1. Jeff Pandora
    Joined: Jan 4, 2018
    Posts: 64

    Jeff Pandora
    from Mojave

    OK here it is I See patina (controlled Rust and Wear ) some I like some I don't how much Paint need to be present to to be considered Patina If any ..
    The Reason I Ask Is I just Acquired a Roadster off the HAMB it looks great and I like however I would also like to paint it you know make it mine own what do you Think 1928 ford roadster 02.jpg
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  2. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 51,190


    Drive it until you get tired of how it looks, then paint it. Pretty simple.

    Sent from my Trimline
  3. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 11,231

    jimmy six

    That’s rust or paint... I’ll take paint
  4. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 8,829

    Bandit Billy

    There is nothing like nice patina....and that is nothing like nice patina!
    "I see a rust car and I want it painted black"

  5. 41rodderz
    Joined: Sep 27, 2010
    Posts: 6,336

    from Oregon

    Get the roller out .:p
  6. TCTND
    Joined: Dec 27, 2019
    Posts: 310


    "Patina" is an overused word. Certainly a car with some wear and tear that displays it's history is very cool and worth preserving. Fake patina is just another fashion statement which is OK if you like that sort of thing. Having said that, I'm through with high end paint jobs because they cost a fortune and make the car less fun to drive. I do appreciate and love looking at perfect paint but I don't want to worry about chips and scratches. My '33 will retain it's nicely applied satin black that's easily touched up without experiencing major trauma. Just my opinion.
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  7. hotrodjack33
    Joined: Aug 19, 2019
    Posts: 3,545


    Honest patina is a RARE thing. It's a very small window between a patina body and a rusty hulk. I'd wear that patina like a badge of honor.
    Park that roadster next to a similar '29 with a shiny paint job at any show and the crowd will be checking yours's more interesting...anybody can have paint.
  8. gnichols
    Joined: Mar 6, 2008
    Posts: 11,125

    from Tampa, FL

    The basic idea behind paint is to protect the metal, to keep it from rusting. If you like the look of rust and faded / oxidized paint, at least do something to keep it from actually rusting away.
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  9. WB69
    Joined: Dec 7, 2008
    Posts: 1,857


    That's a neat little car. But, a little too much rust for me. I like the satin black look, but that's just my opinion. Do as you want. Your car.
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  10. Flathead Dave
    Joined: Mar 21, 2014
    Posts: 3,676

    Flathead Dave
    from So. Cal.

    I have a buddy named "Rusty". We started calling him "patina" because he is always so neat and groomed.
    There's a huge difference between patina and rust.
  11. 49ratfink
    Joined: Feb 8, 2004
    Posts: 18,252

    from California

    I say make it your own by putting a bunch of miles on it.
  12. Baumi
    Joined: Jan 28, 2003
    Posts: 2,890


    I think that´s a way cool roadster and I´d leave it as it is. You can paint it later on if you prefer , until then you can drive the wheels off of it without worrying about dings and scratches.
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  13. ccain
    Joined: Jun 13, 2009
    Posts: 798


    Nah man, "patina" is for statues and copper roofs.


    Nah, I'm just foolin'. :p

    Spend some time with the car. It'll tell you what it wants. ;)
  14. bchctybob
    Joined: Sep 18, 2011
    Posts: 3,679


    Personally if you can’t tell what color it is from a few feet away because its mostly rust, it’s just rusty. Old paint that’s lost it’s gloss or worn through in a number of places is patina to my way of thinking. If you like the “just dragged it out of the field and got ‘er runnin’ look fine, but I would ask myself, “what would a 16 year old on a gas station budget do.” Probably sand it and paint it using enamel and a borrowed spray outfit. Then he and his buddies would lay out some flames or scallops.

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  15. loudbang
    Joined: Jul 23, 2013
    Posts: 40,126


    Well you certainly "opened the box" with this one. :rolleyes:
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  16. grumpy65
    Joined: Dec 19, 2017
    Posts: 925


    Yoda says..jpg

    Where in the process do you think you're at ?
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  17. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 7,525


    I am in the paint group. Very few cars have a patina that make it look like an original survivor. Most look like a rusty car with the owner too cheep or lazy to paint it correctly.
  18. you need to photograph it better. early morning or late day for the best light. just looks rusty in that picture with the shadows.
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  19. hotrodjack33
    Joined: Aug 19, 2019
    Posts: 3,545


    Wait a minute..."don't be a RECTANGLE" ???
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  20. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
    Posts: 6,994



    Your hot rod is a good starting point, but the rusty look is awful. It looks like too much time has passed and you don’t care about your cool roadster, anymore. (not that it was your fault as you just purchased it) It needs some work and a good paint job. That look shows a hot rod past its prime and needs help. Once done, the roadster will look very good. Now, it is the accessories that will make or break the new look.


    The only way to keep it this rusty look and not worry about it is to race in the dirt drags and beat the crap out of it. I am not so sure you bought it for that purpose. So, it needs a new direction and some hot rod care and adulation.

    Black is old style, but difficult to maintain. Red will get the looks, (red with black wires, a good look) but not as old style as you might want. Perhaps, the photoshop people can help out with a myriad of colors.

    As always, the choice is yours and the style of hot rod has to fit into your reality.
  21. 2935ford
    Joined: Jan 6, 2006
    Posts: 3,750


    I'm with Squirrel on this one. Just drive the wheels off it for now.
    And what TCTND said.......I'm also done with paint for the same reasons.
  22. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 51,190


    I think we should turn this thread into a "how to photograph your car" thread.

    Lighting is one of the important things about photography. If you don't think about the lighting at all, you end up with pictures like this. If you do think about it, then you'll walk over to the other side of the car to take the picture, or move the car, either to get the light on the side you want to show, or to find a big shady area where the lighting is softer, or until the sun is going down.

    Framing, background, aspect ratio, border, are also all important, and they were mostly done well on this photo. Good job! Although it's usually a good idea, if there's only going to be one photo, to take it at an angle, showing a bit of the front of the car.

    Carry on....
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2020
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  23. GordonC
    Joined: Mar 6, 2006
    Posts: 2,678


    I came from the land of rust worms and you can hear them chewing on your car at night! A rusty old car looks like you just don't give a shit about it. Patina was a word gold chainers came up with because the word rust offended them! Even in the old days money was spent on going fast first, then if there was enough coin left over a hot rod got painted. I don't ever recall somebody saying "I think I'll just let the bare metal continue to rust. It really looks good that way!"
  24. adam401
    Joined: Dec 27, 2007
    Posts: 2,769


    That car with a nice neatly brushed on semi gloss black would look real sharp.
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  25. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
    Posts: 4,733

    dana barlow
    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

    Cool looking rod I like a lot so far,looks like it deserves shiny paint too be super cool ..
    It will last longer,be much EZer to clean a gain respect. I vote for shiny paint.
    Patina is another word for rot.
  26. Boatmark
    Joined: Jan 15, 2012
    Posts: 343


    If it were mine it would get painted in some form. But its yours, so the only opinion that matters is yours.

    I think the word Patina has been bastardized along the way. To me Patina is illustrated by a car like HRP's 32' sedan. A paint job that has aged and worn a bit. It has taken on character with age and use. I like that. Left out in a field for fifty years then clear coated to "preserve" the rot and destruction - I just don't see the appeal. I don't call that Patina. Just looks to me like you don't care. And now it seems like a contest to see how crappy it can be. Why anyone would want to replicate this with paint is beyond me. But to each his own.

    I also never understood this excuse that "if I paint it nice, I can't drive it". Where do you drive? My OT daily drivers are both black, and both worth more than any Hot Rod I've owned. I drive them everywhere and they are not destroyed. I admit I am the guy that parks farther out in the parking lot to avoid door dings, but hell I need the exercise anyway. Show car paint is gawd awful expensive, but most of us don't own show quality cars. But decent quality drive quality paint isn't all that bad, and if you're cheap like me you can teach yourself to do something livable in your garage. Even just primer. I think its just an excuse for don't want to spend, and not willing to put in the labor. I mean look at the lacquer on PGAN's sedan. That car is gorgeous and came out of his garage. Yes, lacquer is high maintenance, but its doable. Even using modern paint I can generally cut and buff out most of my mistakes. If you can teach yourself to build the car, you can teach yourself to paint the car.

    Ok, soapbox closed.
  27. stuart in mn
    Joined: Nov 22, 2007
    Posts: 2,131

    stuart in mn

    I'm on Boatmark's soapbox. :)
    - rust is not patina
    - it's entirely possible to have nice paint on a car and still be able to drive it
    - in the end, it's your choice
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  28. rusty valley
    Joined: Oct 25, 2014
    Posts: 3,230

    rusty valley

    i say drive it. if you have a fancy paint job, where do you set your wrenches down when fixin it?
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  29. ccain
    Joined: Jun 13, 2009
    Posts: 798


    Like, yeah, daddy-o! Only thing worse than a square is rectangle, man.

    Oh god! Why am I talking like this? I have a sudden urge to put on a beret, dark round sunglasses, grow a pointed goatee, and snap my fingers as I read really bad poetry set to jazz that nobody can tap their feet to!

    Wait! Do beatniks get banned around here or just beaten up? :p
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  30. badvolvo
    Joined: Jul 25, 2011
    Posts: 472


    To make it your own, I think you have to do what YOU want.
    "controlled rust" that's funny.
    "anybody can have paint" - not as easy as you can have rust.
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