I do indeed stand corrected. They all, without a doubt, have forgotten more than I will ever know and had soul coming out of their pores. I was actually more referring to a lot of the boring cookie cutter type builds that rely on flashy paint to make them 'look cool'. That is where my 'new car' comment came from. I actually have nothing against flashy paint, it looks really good on some things, like the cars you mentioned. You could paint those cars any color at all and they would be just as cool. I just feel that a car should be able to stand on it's own and not need paint to make it stand out.