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Hot Rods Paint Job Jail...Avoided!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by A Boner, Feb 25, 2022.

  1. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 6,621

    A Boner

    A buddy avoided the long wait to get his roadster pickup truck painted, by having it powder coated, instead. Nice new metal (Brookville Roadster) body...might be problematic if attempted with old tin, though. Back in his shop in less than 3 weeks! Looks very respectable...cost was quite reasonable, and probably about what getting it primed at a body shop would have cost. Could be cut and buffed, but we all think it looks great as is...why bother!
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2022
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  2. Tow Truck Tom
    Joined: Jul 3, 2018
    Posts: 592

    Tow Truck Tom
    from Clayton DE

    Let us know how it works out.
    Pardon my lack of knowledge. I was under the illusion that coating won't flex. It sure looks good.
  3. Budget36
    Joined: Nov 29, 2014
    Posts: 9,045


    Did he have the whole body done, or take it in pieces then assemble?
    Cost v paint?
    Just a percentage is fine.
  4. Powdercoat flexes very well, so that's not an issue if the prep was done right for good adhesion.

    The problem is powdercoat is a 'soft' finish. It is a plastic finish after all. You won't have any luck trying to buff it, and it will 'microscratch' easily. Remember those cheap brightly colored plastic supermarket toys? They were nice and shiny when new, but dulled with handling? That's what powdercoat will do from washing/wiping. This is it's one major drawback IMO. The larger the surface and brighter the light, the more this shows.

    There's a local powdercoater who coats motorcycle tanks and fenders, but he applies a clear coat of hardened clear urethane over the powder to prevent this.
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  5. T&A Flathead
    Joined: Apr 28, 2007
    Posts: 1,955

    T&A Flathead

    There are many types of powder. Polyurethane, epoxy, polyesters, urethanes, etc. All have their purposes. They are soft but I’ve been able to buff most versions. I’d concerned about getting the body hot enough to cure the powder in all areas. looks good, good luck.
  6. Reidy
    Joined: May 13, 2016
    Posts: 203


    How did he finish the body work underneath to get a nice smooth finish?
  7. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 9,034

    Bandit Billy

    Hmmmm o_O. Juries out on this one. Assuming the body is razor straight, and as T&A said above it can be sanded and can it be repaired? This stuff doesn't feather edge.
  8. Fortunateson
    Joined: Apr 30, 2012
    Posts: 4,657


    Yeah I’d be pretty concerned about the possibility of repair or touchup if a minor or major accident occurred.
  9. JimSibley
    Joined: Jan 21, 2004
    Posts: 3,533


    The finish will never look like a high end paint job. You cant fill prime and block it to perfection. A cheap paint job would yield the same results, and a cheap paint job should not land you in paint jail.
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  10. It can't be repaired. While properly-applied powdercoat is extremely durable, once damaged to where it needs repairing the only option is a full recoat. Or manage a perfect color match and paint the panel. Getting the finish texture to match will be a trick. Powdercoat isn't paint and doesn't act like it. If a sheet metal panel gets dented, you'll have to metal-finish the repair as I'm not aware of any filler that doesn't show under a recoat.

    And don't forget that powder needs at least 350 degrees cure heat to 'flow out'. A bit tough to do on a quarterpanel or assembled door.
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  11. NoRust
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
    Posts: 62


    Rant, rant,.....rant. Powder coating is not traditional. :D :)
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  12. indyjps
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
    Posts: 4,991


    I like it, hell why not. Agree with @Crazy Steve powder will micro scratch easier than paint.
    If the shop uses RAL based powder color catalog, pretty standard if they also do industrial work. RAL color chart has paint mix formulas, you can order premix paint from many places.

    I don't like powder for my stuff, have had it done, also have an oven and gun. Good paint, correct for application is easier for me and meets my needs. Single stage urethane is some tough stuff.
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2022
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  13. Won't the powder just blow off once up to highway speed or in a stiff wind?
  14. if you can find a wind that is about 6 hundred miles per hour
    you might have a problem.!
    i would rather get a Trunk Monkey it's traditional
    Does anybody know what traditional is..?
    I have been around the block a couple times & have seen a lot
    of different styles that Hot Rods like.!

    just my 3.5 cents

    live learn & die a Fool
  15. Damn, you guys would bitch about a deuce on a silver platter. Besides, hotrods are not meant to be PERFECT. That is for customs and street rods.

    I like it!! A boner's buddy likes it. So there.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

  16. If the owner digs it, I’m tickled for him

    Time to light the tires up

    the gloss level is probably more consistent with older paint.

    I’d drive it
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2022
  17. Looks "greytt" to me!
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  18. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 6,621

    A Boner

    Owner is meticulous with his cars. He figured if it ever got really damaged, he would consider the power coat as a primer, and get whatever needed fixing, painted. The finish looks like an older low tech paint job...and as stated above, perfect for a traditional looking hot rod!
    Base coat clear coat looks fantastic on a $300,000.00 Show Rod, and somewhat out of place on a traditional Hot Rod...IMHO!
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  19. The main concern I'd have is what prep was done before coating. Virtually every powder failure I've ever seen was due to a lack of proper prep before coating. Lifting/peeling has two causes; one, the surface wasn't totally clean/dry and two, the surface wasn't sandblasted to apply a good 'tooth' for the powder to grip. I blast every part (new or not) with 80 grit sand to insure good adhesion. If the coater simply wiped it down and no blasting, I'd be worried about it lifting in places.

    Powdercoat is great stuff in the right place, but it's not for everything....
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  20. Reidy
    Joined: May 13, 2016
    Posts: 203


    What filler was used under the powder coat?
  21. I’m guessing none since it’s a new body
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  22. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 6,621

    A Boner

    None...body direct from Brookville. It’s a Hot Rod, and it looks like a Hot Rod.
    Before powder coating, the powder coat shop owner carefully media blasted it for proper, “tooth”.
  23. clem
    Joined: Dec 20, 2006
    Posts: 3,698


    Thanks for posting this !
    Looks great.
    From time to time we see similar type paint jobs on finished hot rods, so you may have just helped some find an alternative method of finishing their car for reduced cost.
  24. Neat, better than flocking
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  25. Rand Man
    Joined: Aug 23, 2004
    Posts: 4,320

    Rand Man

    From my experience, powder coat does not have good UV resistance. That could have changed over the years.
  26. That's still pretty much true. It does depend on the color selected.
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  27. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 6,621

    A Boner

    Oh, no, pre-mature patina!
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  28. chaddilac
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 14,000


    Funny.... it looks powder coated to me.
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  29. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 6,621

    A Boner

    Similar looking “finish” to this “gem” of a Hot my old eyes, anyway! 45391ACE-EE22-45D3-A0D5-36AB22702373.png
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2022
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  30. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 6,621

    A Boner

    And, as opposed to this absolutely beautiful “Show Custom” paint job like this one.
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2022

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