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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Daves 48 Special, May 12, 2010.

  1. Daves 48 Special
    Joined: Mar 30, 2009
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    I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there is a paint that is not a candy color that looks the same as candy brandy wine ,i heard to paint candy it isnt for people that never panted candy ,you have to know what you are doing.
     
  2. Stu D Baker
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    Look at some of the late model colors. Some of the more exotic ones are 3 stage, rather than 2 stage. One of the big advantages with using a late model car color, is being able to match it later. Candy colors can be matched, but it takes a lot of talent to get it right. Stu
     
  3. SlowandLow63
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    HOK makes Kandy Basecoats. The same "look" as their kandy colors in basecoat formula. They use pearls to make the color appear kandy like from different angles. The stuff still isn't foolproof by any means, but it does come easier than a real kandy.
     
  4. skullhat
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    agreed, that stuff is about as close as your gonna get, still need to know what you are doing to make it look good

    the 3 stage factory colors mentioned are pretty nice as well, and some of the 3 stage solvent based colors come in water base as a 2 stage and are pretty easy to put on, for expeierinced painters.

    never gonna beat the look of a real candy job though



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  5. Daves 48 Special
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    Thanks all im no experance painter if i have someone do the job im sure kandy will run into heavy some big dollars thanks again .
     
  6. american opel
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    i thought that candy was just a translucinte{sp?}color.what is the difference petween candy and paint?
     
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  7. zman
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    Candy is a translucent paint. That gives a certain effect. Most paint (base coat I think is what you are after) is opaque. You can thin out paint with clear and get a laquer type effect. The HOK candy base is pretty good but isn't quite as cool as real candy but pretty cool none the less.
     
  8. american opel
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    whats the diff.between translucent and opaque?and im not trying to be funny.
     
  9. zman
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    translucent is see through, opaque is solid.
     
  10. Frankie47
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    I have heard of 2 stage paint systems, BC CC, what does a 3 stage paint system have that is different and is it better?:confused:
     
  11. Stu D Baker
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    2 stage is basecoat color and clearcoat. 3 stage is a basecoat color, a mid color coat of usually pearl, and then the clearcoat. Stu
     
  12. overspray
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    3 stage is candy. Usually a metallic basecoat, followed by a translucent tinted clear, followed by a clearcoat. Some of the new cars have tricoat systems=3 stage. The pearl white Cadillacs and Toyotas are 3 stage/tricoat.

    Regular candy colors are done about the same way. The new basecoat technology makes them somewhat easier, but still it takes an experienced hand with the materials and the spraygun.

    In the old days most candy colors were lacquer. Usually a silver or gold base color was sprayed, followed by tinted clear lacquer, then followed by clear lacquer. With all the coats of lacquer it could involve spraying 25 to 40 coats--maybe more! That's 25 to 40 times around the whole car. This was usually done over several days even weeks. With all that lacquer material, those jobs didn't last very long without cracking here in the northern border states with the temperature extremes.

    Todays materials are more forgiving with urethane enamel type materials and hi solids clearcoats and it takes way less trips around the car.

    overspray
     
  13. Frankie47
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    Thanks Stu D Baker and overspray, you guys are OK:)
     
  14. sik_kreations
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    x3 on house of kolor kbc. u can get kbc brandywine. use hok clear tho.. reason y. the paint is designed to bleed a little into the first coat of clear to make it appear more like a candy. to most normal people. they cant tell. go figure.
     
  15. SlowandLow63
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    The clear does play hell with it!!!!! It looks wayyyyyy darker and the clear really affects it on certain colors.
     
  16. Daves 48 Special
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    I learned a lot today thanks all bottom line i need to leave the painting to the experts when it come to kandy colors ,
    Any one around the DFW (Texas) does kandy painting ...........
     
  17. Jagman
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    On the subject of new car paint, find a new black Ford Fusion and look at the paint in the sunlight - tons of beautiful turquoise flake in it - yet it looks black from a little ways away. Nicely done Ford! And it would be a killer alternative to the normal black you find on customs......
     

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