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Hot Rods Paging Pgan - Build thread for the sedan?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Boatmark, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. pgan
    Joined: Apr 7, 2009
    Posts: 212

    pgan
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    Rick (and others): If you go back a few pages in this thread you'll see how I used various tools (i.e., hammer and old screwdriver) to clean the original tack strip out, remove (drill out rivets) and straighten the channels, then clean the channel in the body. I asked my upholsterer how he was going to re-attach it, and he showed me some pliable plastic strip he got in rolls from his upholstery supply house. The stuff he showed me was bout 1/2" wide by 1/4" thick--maybe a little thicker. I told him that might be a little too thick (tall), not allowing the top material to sit flush with the body. We also discussed whether to use the channel and how to reinstall it (i.e., pop rivets?). So when I finally brought him the car to upholster, I brought the loose roof channel, and he said he'd install it, with new tack strip (plastic). Told me not to worry about it. So to tell the truth, I don't know exactly what he did. The top is Mercedes Haartz cloth convertible material, with a white hid-em strip around the edge to hide the tacks/staples. I have to admit it doesn't sit quite as tight to the body as I'd like, especially around the corners. I did have him run a bead of silicone all the way around, between the body channel and the tack strip channel, to make sure no water leaked in. I also asked him if the top insert was guaranteed to 100 mph, and he said "Absolutely." So we'll see.
    Don't know if this helps. Hope so.
    PG
     
  2. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

    Hey Pat Thanks for getting back so quick! Unfortunately I was hoping we would get to see the New plastic version! My strip os pretty good still so Im gonna stabilize it with the stuff we use at work it’s for sealing roofs and ducting, it is called Sica flex, I think it will be hard yet flexible enough to hold the nails, we shall see, I want to reuse my original roof trim my Pops had chromed back in the day, and keep low like original, not like the after market kits.
    Thanks Rick Adjustments.JPG Adjustments.JPG IMG_7952.JPG
     
  3. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

  4. pgan
    Joined: Apr 7, 2009
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    How about a quickie '33 Fordor update? Got the front fenders cut, buffed, undercoated, and bolted in place. no486.JPG no487.JPG Getting the fenders, side splash aprons, front splash apron, and that little chin piece all lined up is a bit of a monkey puzzle. no488.JPG
    no489.JPG Nope, frame's not shiny, but the side splash aprons are. And all the braces are in place.
    no492.JPG Getting the grille to fit with all those other pieces, and then try to line up bolt holes, takes a lot of trial and error, patience, and some ingenuity (aka cheating).
    no494.JPG The classic grille shot. Oops, I see one bar that needs a little straightening. This grille had been heavily worked on in the past. It's still not as good as it looks. But Bob Barnes at Verne's Plating (now happily retired, like me) made it look a whole lot better than it was.
    no491.JPG There are more bolt holes to align yet. But I just like this photo. More news when it happens.
    PG
     
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  5. Pete Eastwood
    Joined: Jul 27, 2011
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    from california

    You're going to paint the condenser & the front of the radiator black , before you bolt the grill in for the last time , Right ?
     
  6. 50Fraud
    Joined: May 6, 2001
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    Good thread. Going to be a really nice car (no surprise there).
     
  7. Rckt98
    Joined: Jun 7, 2005
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    Really enjoying this build thread Pat, looking good.
    Russell (NZ).
     
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  8. pgan
    Joined: Apr 7, 2009
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    Pete, don't worry, they are black. Don't know why they look otherwise in the photo. If they werent't black to start, Bill painted them.
     
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  9. I'm late to the party Pat but I had to say the pickguard material you selected for the gauge surround was a masterstroke. Really nice looking.
     
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  10. pgan
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    This is probably the penultimate report on the '33 Fordor build. (That means second-to-last.) Being stuck at home thankfully gives me garage time, but it's not much different than being retired, to tell the truth. But getting last details done takes way more time than you expect, such as wiring the lights (low beam, high beam, brake lights, turn signals).
    But I took Anna for her first ride in it yesterday (around the block). Then I went to get gas today, and am happy to report that everything works very well. So here's a look:
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    I'm very glad I chromed the tailpipes. The gas tank is Porsche silver, other chassis parts are hammertone silver or gray. I'm also happy to report that the little 305, with its E-brock cam, carb, and intake, scoots (and sounds) way better than I expected. Trans, brakes, steering, suspension all work great--Bill did an excellent job on all that. As for the exterior, it still needs one more hand-rub and then its first wax job. Only thing left to do is paint and install the hood, which thankfully is quite straight. I do like black lacquer. And I have to say, I do like this car a lot...for a four door. Stay home and healthy. See you when we're finally released.
     
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  11. Jim Bouchard
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    Damn!!!!

    That’s got the look too tall!!!!
     
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  12. okiedokie
    Joined: Jul 5, 2005
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    from Ok

    Beautiful. Thanks for taking us along on the build and thanks for educating me as to penultimate meaning.
     
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  13. Tim
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
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    from Raytown Mo

    Looks killer!
     
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  14. primed34
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    Good looking sedan.
     
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  15. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    That's a gorgeous car! Sits sooo right and has attitude without resorting to overdone mods.
     
  16. Malcolm
    Joined: Feb 9, 2006
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    Malcolm
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    from Nebraska

    Sure has turned out nice. Great looking hot rod cruiser! I can see a lot of miles in it's future.
     
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  17. loudbang
    Joined: Jul 23, 2013
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    Came out REAL nice looking you still have "The Touch". :)
     
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  18. Boatmark
    Joined: Jan 15, 2012
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    Pat, there should not be any "for a four door" qualifier attached to this car. It came out beautiful, and very very cool.
    To me the biggest home run in this build is that the car is timeless. From the stance, to the deep black paint, to the interior choices - it will be bad-ass today, tomorrow, and long into the future. Very few get the entire theme right. You did in spades.
    I hope this isn't truly the penultimate update on the sedan. Being this is the ROADEE, I hoped we'd continue to get the occasional update on the roads its taken, and the places its seen. Maybe the occasional glimpse into Pat & Anna's Excellent Hot Rod Retirement Adventures.
     
  19. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
    Joined: Nov 12, 2010
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    I remember reading a story you wrote in the Rodder's Journal about you and Bill. In it you made mention that you where not sure if Bill would be as interested in building cars as much as you where. I guess the apple did not fall far from the tree. You both do great work. Thanks for letting us follow along. Now you an Anna go put a million miles on that thing! Larry
     
  20. killbilly
    Joined: Mar 29, 2009
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    Pat...what does a dyslexic ,agnostic insomniac do......he lies awake at night and wonders if there really is a Dog....sorry...BTW beautful job!
     
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  21. Looks perfect Pat!


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  22. Stance...perfect.
     
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  23. BrerHair
    Joined: Jan 30, 2007
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    Pretty good. Pretty, pretty, pretty good.
     
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  24. pgan
    Joined: Apr 7, 2009
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    You know the Ganahl garage motto (A job isn't worth doing, unless it's worth doing twice.). Well the last part in the '33 Fordor build was the stock 4-piece hood. I left it to last because it looked pretty straight and fit well when the car was in primer. I thought this was going to be a simple scuff-and-squirt. Ha! It took three weeks of garage incarceration hammer-and-dollying, slapping, sanding, Bondoing, sanding, blocking, primering, blocking, etc., etc. I painted it and blocked it with 1000 grit three times before it was finally ready to rub out and wax. Looked pretty good. So with Anna's help, we got it installed and aligned on the car late last week. The notorious '33 latches even worked fine. But wouldn't you know, as soon as I cinched it down in place with the latches, a new ripple appeared in one of the hood tops. Only the people who matter will notice. So screw it. I spent the weekend hand-rubbing the rest of the car with 3M compund, then the 3M "magic glaze," and then finally waxing it for the first time. Then I took it for a test drive up to the top of our hill, and took some pictures to show you guys. So this is the ultimate report on the '33 Fordor build. Not as in great or best, but as in last. no516.JPG
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    I showed under the back last time, so here's a look under the front before it gets all dirty. Refer back to earlier installments if you want to know what any of that stuff is. Original '33 frame; Pete & Jake's/Superbell parts; South City R&C fabrication; spray can paint and undercoat. Minimal chrome. Built to drive.
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    no520.JPG So that's it. Hope you enjoyed following along. Maybe you picked up a tip or two. It sits low but as you can see it's all tucked up pretty tight for ground clearance. I have to say I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out. More important, Anna really likes it. Next time you see it will be somewhere out on the highway. Say hi.

    Cheers, Pat G.
     
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  25. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
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    33Doll

    Beautiful!
    Mine will look like a hoopty compared to yours though.
    Seriously... its really nice for mostly home built!
    Drive It Baby!!!
     
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  26. 50Fraud
    Joined: May 6, 2001
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    I cringe a little when using the term "elegant" around hot rods, but this car really deserves it. It's dignified, tasteful, understated. The stance and color scheme are perfect. I guess "exactly right" is accurate, and easier to swallow than "elegant". Great job.
     
  27. willysguy
    Joined: Oct 2, 2007
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    from Canada

    Great job Pat, it turned out really nice!
     
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  28. Nailed it!
     
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  29. Allmotor
    Joined: Jan 7, 2007
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    Nicely done
     
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  30. BamaMav
    Joined: Jun 19, 2011
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    from Berry, AL

    As Ole Dad would say, Reet!
     

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