Register now to get rid of these ads!

OT but relevant: Jag IRS How To...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bash'n'Weld, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. Bash'n'Weld
    Joined: Jan 19, 2008
    Posts: 361

    Bash'n'Weld
    Member

    Hi all, I know alot of you right now are yelling at your 'puter "IT'S NOT TRADITIONAL!!", but then neather is dropping your ride over an S10 yet still alot do it and even more want to know how to do it. So without entering into the "traditional" arguement on here, I've just decided to pass on some knowledge that another Hamber has passed to me (Thanks captain scarlet, much appreciated!)

    Unfortunately I had to reduce the quality of these attachments so that they can be attached, lets see how this goes.....
     

    Attached Files:

    • 02.jpg
      02.jpg
      File size:
      315.8 KB
      Views:
      2,040
    • 03.jpg
      03.jpg
      File size:
      316.8 KB
      Views:
      2,134
    • 04.jpg
      04.jpg
      File size:
      350.6 KB
      Views:
      1,997
    • 05.jpg
      05.jpg
      File size:
      387.8 KB
      Views:
      1,870
    • 06.jpg
      06.jpg
      File size:
      277.4 KB
      Views:
      1,815
    • 07.jpg
      07.jpg
      File size:
      270.9 KB
      Views:
      2,209
    • 08.jpg
      08.jpg
      File size:
      341.2 KB
      Views:
      1,726
    • 09.jpg
      09.jpg
      File size:
      351.7 KB
      Views:
      1,720
    • 10.jpg
      10.jpg
      File size:
      331.2 KB
      Views:
      1,827
    • 11.jpg
      11.jpg
      File size:
      362.2 KB
      Views:
      1,745
    • 12.jpg
      12.jpg
      File size:
      372.6 KB
      Views:
      1,707
    • 13.jpg
      13.jpg
      File size:
      361.6 KB
      Views:
      1,811
    • 14.jpg
      14.jpg
      File size:
      271.5 KB
      Views:
      1,674
    • 15.jpg
      15.jpg
      File size:
      266.5 KB
      Views:
      1,736
  2. Bash'n'Weld
    Joined: Jan 19, 2008
    Posts: 361

    Bash'n'Weld
    Member

    More...
     

    Attached Files:

    • 16.jpg
      16.jpg
      File size:
      258 KB
      Views:
      1,036
    • 17.jpg
      17.jpg
      File size:
      225.3 KB
      Views:
      894
    • 18.jpg
      18.jpg
      File size:
      254.1 KB
      Views:
      860
    • 19.jpg
      19.jpg
      File size:
      268.3 KB
      Views:
      912
    • 20.jpg
      20.jpg
      File size:
      276.8 KB
      Views:
      959
    • 21.jpg
      21.jpg
      File size:
      303.4 KB
      Views:
      962
    • 22.jpg
      22.jpg
      File size:
      257.5 KB
      Views:
      968
    • 23.jpg
      23.jpg
      File size:
      309.2 KB
      Views:
      957
    • 24.jpg
      24.jpg
      File size:
      268.8 KB
      Views:
      1,011
    • 25.jpg
      25.jpg
      File size:
      285.2 KB
      Views:
      964
    • 26.jpg
      26.jpg
      File size:
      282.5 KB
      Views:
      963
    • 27.jpg
      27.jpg
      File size:
      222.6 KB
      Views:
      901
    • 28.jpg
      28.jpg
      File size:
      264.3 KB
      Views:
      932
    • 29.jpg
      29.jpg
      File size:
      251.2 KB
      Views:
      933
  3. Bash'n'Weld
    Joined: Jan 19, 2008
    Posts: 361

    Bash'n'Weld
    Member

    More...
     

    Attached Files:

    • 30.jpg
      30.jpg
      File size:
      344 KB
      Views:
      923
    • 31.jpg
      31.jpg
      File size:
      257 KB
      Views:
      829
    • 32.jpg
      32.jpg
      File size:
      300.5 KB
      Views:
      840
    • 33.jpg
      33.jpg
      File size:
      270.4 KB
      Views:
      825
    • 34.jpg
      34.jpg
      File size:
      259.7 KB
      Views:
      834
    • 35.jpg
      35.jpg
      File size:
      305.3 KB
      Views:
      837
    • 36.jpg
      36.jpg
      File size:
      305.7 KB
      Views:
      746
    • 37.jpg
      37.jpg
      File size:
      245.4 KB
      Views:
      809
    • 38.jpg
      38.jpg
      File size:
      267.6 KB
      Views:
      811
    • 39.jpg
      39.jpg
      File size:
      265.3 KB
      Views:
      862
    • 40.jpg
      40.jpg
      File size:
      269.5 KB
      Views:
      826
    • 41.jpg
      41.jpg
      File size:
      266.8 KB
      Views:
      841
    • 42.jpg
      42.jpg
      File size:
      301.8 KB
      Views:
      850
    • 43.jpg
      43.jpg
      File size:
      294.2 KB
      Views:
      874
  4. Bash'n'Weld
    Joined: Jan 19, 2008
    Posts: 361

    Bash'n'Weld
    Member

    Last
     

    Attached Files:

    • 44.jpg
      44.jpg
      File size:
      279.9 KB
      Views:
      861
    Register now to get rid of these ads!

  5. Johnny1290
    Joined: Apr 20, 2006
    Posts: 2,834

    Johnny1290
    Member

    Good of you to make the effort, bashnweld, thats a lotta scanning! They read great too.
     
    Chuck Lauer likes this.
  6. Bash'n'Weld
    Joined: Jan 19, 2008
    Posts: 361

    Bash'n'Weld
    Member

    Yeah, I really appreciated the info handout and just thought others would too.
    Cheers
     
    Chuck Lauer likes this.
  7. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
    Posts: 16,559

    zman
    Member
    from Garner, NC

    Nice info...
     
  8. mustangsix
    Joined: Mar 7, 2005
    Posts: 1,296

    mustangsix
    Member

    That was timely. I also have a "lump" (Jag XJS x/SBC) in the garage and was just getting ready to rebuild the rear suspension. The extra info comes in handy!

    Thanks!
     
  9. Weasel
    Joined: Dec 30, 2007
    Posts: 6,707

    Weasel
    Member

    There are many who would argue the "It's not traditional" thing with you - I say fuck that - it's a damn site more traditional than fuckin' air bags.:confused::confused:

    If you want the best riding, organic looking and highly visual rear end under your ride - go for it and use a Jag - I am - on two of my rides, with the Snow White mounting/crossmember kit - www.snowwhiteltd.com. Pepper Snow and Ron White are very experienced hot rodders and their mounting kit is thoroughly engineered. Great guys to talk to as well. And for a rebuild Curt Hamilton at Hamilton Automotive 15826 Stagg Lane, Van Nuys, CA 91406 is the best - been doing them for over 40 years. 818 787-9695

    Great Tech thread Bash'n'Weld and thanks for taking the time and trouble to scan and post it. I have bookmarked this one.
     
    Chuck Lauer likes this.
  10. RUFTOY
    Joined: Jul 21, 2009
    Posts: 78

    RUFTOY
    Member

    Great choice! I ran Jag IRS for 17 years and 90.000 miles in a model A coupe. No problems.
    If you run into any issues just let me know.
     
  11. Thanks, great set of information.
    I don't see it as OT or not traditional,
    good choice of rear end, have narrowed them down and used them myself,
    Chromed up I can't think of anything that looks better.
    thanks again for posting this
     
  12. 1950jax
    Joined: Aug 9, 2005
    Posts: 82

    1950jax
    BANNED

    Thanks for posting the info. I have a Jag IRS I am planning to put in my 50' Chevy. Your post is very timely and is much needed.:)
     
  13. Garry Carter
    Joined: Mar 11, 2002
    Posts: 576

    Garry Carter
    Member

    I ran a `63 Jag on both the front and rear of my `29 RPU for 20 years ... and honestly believe it was the best riding, best driving Model A I've ever been in. In fact, it's still on the road in Arizona -- just under new management.

    As for what's "traditional" and what's not ... I guess you need to let all those boys in the Early Times, who were building cars that were the envy of the world throughout the `50's, `60's, and `70's that they were insufficiently traditional. I don't know a one of them by name -- but they've been my heroes for 40 years. And they did lots of Jag suspensions.
     
    Chuck Lauer likes this.
  14. I also got that info off the good captain.
    There is a ton of useful info on jag rears on the net.
    Just goes to show the popularity of the unit in a rod.
    Good to share the info I reckon.

    .
     
  15. SoCal Merc
    Joined: Jul 26, 2007
    Posts: 572

    SoCal Merc
    Member
    from SoCal

    Mustangsix is right. This is very timely. I am buying my Dad's old Model A was looking for some feedback and thoughts on the Jag IRS. Thanks.
     

    Attached Files:

  16. flatblackindustries
    Joined: Oct 7, 2006
    Posts: 645

    flatblackindustries
    Member
    from Ogden, UT

    This is great. Thanks for sharing this info.
     
  17. plym49
    Joined: Aug 9, 2008
    Posts: 2,797

    plym49
    Member
    from Earth

    LOL a 'lump'! Betcha not many would have known what the heck you mean by that if you did not provide the answer. Now, who knows WHY that term is used? :)
     
  18. Bash'n'Weld
    Joined: Jan 19, 2008
    Posts: 361

    Bash'n'Weld
    Member

    1950jax, I hope you will do a thread about yours with lots of pics, I'm sure it will become an instantly popular build!

    Oh and plym49, are you gonna make us actually search the net for the answer or will you let us in on the term "lump"?
     
  19. Big Jon
    Joined: Apr 20, 2008
    Posts: 146

    Big Jon
    Member

    Hi Mate
    I am in the process of putting a xj6 jag front end under my 52 chev 4 door , this will give me disk brakes and power steering and lower it with out mucking with the geometry,
    and it was free! the only thing i have to work out is the new spring rates , putting the jag springs in with a 350 doesn't move the upper a arms of the bump stops . (the original jag motor being heavier and further forward in a jag)
     
  20. yoyodyne
    Joined: Nov 26, 2008
    Posts: 866

    yoyodyne
    Member

    Excellent post, lots of good info in one place. Thanks!

    PS I'm a lumper too, 454 in '82 XJS.
     
  21. Bash'n'Weld ... good info ... thanks for taking the time to scan in all those pages and posting them here (NOTE: the resolution is just fine if you click each image a third time).

    Here's an early '80s photo of the Pepper Snow & Ronnie White (Snow-White Ltd.) Jag chassis for our '32 Roadster:

    [​IMG]

    ... and be sure to check-out Pir8Darryl's February 2009 "School me on I.R.S." thread ... lots of good info & pics there too ... just click HERE.
     
  22. plym49
    Joined: Aug 9, 2008
    Posts: 2,797

    plym49
    Member
    from Earth

    Hell no, was waiting for someone to ask.

    Here's what I know: in the UK it is a common slang term to call the motor a 'lump'. That slang took a path downhill and it became a derogatory term for an American V8. As in, 'I pulled out the lump (aka stock engine) and replaced it with a Yankee lump'. In Jag circles the term 'lump' means an American V8 installed in place of the stock Jag motor. In fact nowadays any Jag with a 'murican motor (usually a SBC) is called a 'lump'.
     
    Chuck Lauer likes this.
  23. plym49
    Joined: Aug 9, 2008
    Posts: 2,797

    plym49
    Member
    from Earth

    Note to all: the photo above shows E-Type (aka XKE) suspension parts, not the XJ/XJ-S pieces referred to in this thread.
     
  24. dodge39
    Joined: Apr 16, 2009
    Posts: 28

    dodge39
    Member

    Any info on xj6 front ends.I want to put one in my dodge.cheers
     
  25. Use the search on here.
    There is a ton of info on them..:D
     
  26. Warpspeed
    Joined: Nov 4, 2008
    Posts: 503

    Warpspeed
    Member

    Yeah, it depends what you want.

    The Veteran and Vintage car restorers look down on all hot rodders as being Morons driving bastardised pieces of shit.

    Traditional Hot Rodding is doing it how it was done back in the good old days after WW2.
    Great stuff too................

    Back then, those guys used the very best of whatever radical stuff was available to them, Ardun heads, mechanical fuel injection, hemi engines, supercharging, nitrous oxide. Nothing was too over the top to those guys, they just wanted to go fast and look mean.

    These days (arguably) street rodding is still all about going fast with what is available TODAY.

    Nothing at all wrong with proper modern suspension design, independent suspension, disc brakes and an efficient powerful light weight high horsepower modern engine.

    No excuse these days to build a car that cannot stop, steer and handle well, have exceptional traction and road holding, and also have a good ride with shattering acceleration.

    The Jag rear end is super efficient, bloody strong, a brilliant design, looks great, and is fairly easy to adapt to just about anything. Perfect street rod material.

    I am sure others will not agree with me, but then this is MY car.
     
    Oldb likes this.
  27. captain scarlet
    Joined: Jun 11, 2008
    Posts: 2,380

    captain scarlet
    Member
    from Detroit

    Have newer Jag IRS articles too if anyone wants them
     
  28. Most important, SAFETY. Make sure to incorporate a 7" x7" x 1/4" plate at the bottom of differential housing to lower swing arms with 4- 5/16 fine thread bolts.Look and see,this mod will save you a lot of problems down the road and even your life.
    Keep CHUG-A-LUGIN.
     
  29. Correction, you need 8- 5/16 fine thread bolts !
     
  30. hugh m
    Joined: Jul 18, 2007
    Posts: 2,148

    hugh m
    Member
    from ct.

    Reminded me I just found a spare XJ center section out in the barn, time to put it in the classifieds. Thanks.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2020 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.