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Customs Opinions wanted, '63 Dart headlight bezel modification

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by brad2v, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. The Pontiac bezels are cool as is

    9 vote(s)
  2. They suck, bite the bullet and spend the $$ for the stockers

    3 vote(s)
  3. Don't be a pussy, mold 'em in

    0 vote(s)
  1. brad2v
    Joined: Jun 29, 2009
    Posts: 1,648


    So, 1st off, I know this is in the customs forum, and IMHO, a '63 Dart wagon is pretty fuckin far from a traditional custom. But, it has to go somewhere, and it's even further from being a hot rod.
    That said, I have a pretty clean Dart wagon that I bought in San Diego (and chronicled in a thread the 1200 odd mile drive back to western Canada) 6 years ago. Since my '57 Poncho is finally nearing completion, my intention is to run the wagon in the garage and paint it during the summer, before I embark on my channeled rpu project.
    One of my conundrums is headlight bezels. The bloody things are rare as hen's teeth, and absolutely BEAT ones are getting 3-500 bucks on fleabay, which is approximately 3 bajillion Canadian pesos. Given the fact that the entire car will be worth $5000 AFTER paint, and I'm cheap, and broke, and would prefer to spend the $$ on the hot rod, I've been considering other options. I have a set of F1 bezels lying around. Yeah, no. Then, it struck me, I have a spare for the Pontiac. I hung it on there to eyeball. The fit is decent, probably nearly as well as the OE Dart ring from a "flush" standpoint. The screw holes line up. And Poncho ones are cheap, I can likely score a 2nd one for under $50.
    I think it looks kinda neat. A buddy suggested that it'd look better molded in, and I agree, but then I have to do the molding, plus the mods necessary to change the headlight. My repaint is intended to be a fairly quick project (I said summer, and it ain't long here), so that isn't really a consideration, plus, it's not reversible.
    I value so many opinions here, so what say the masses?

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  2. 45_70Sharps
    Joined: May 19, 2010
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  3. 55Deso
    Joined: Nov 7, 2015
    Posts: 244

    from Wyoming

    Go for it, the Pontiac bezels give it a neat look thats different
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  4. gas & guns
    Joined: Feb 6, 2014
    Posts: 370

    gas & guns

    Not a good look. Just my 2¢

  5. BuckeyeBuicks
    Joined: Jan 4, 2010
    Posts: 2,281

    from ohio

    Go ahead and do it, it would be hard to make it look any worse than the stock ones.
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  6. Why not... although to do it right, you should do something 'matching' at the taillights. Might I suggest frenching in a set of '52-55 ford taillight housings, and extend that vestigial 'fin' out onto the new housing. Lots of choices for a lens, say maybe a repo '50 Pontiac?
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  7. XtechX
    Joined: Jul 22, 2014
    Posts: 74

    from Edmore, MI

    I like it, so I say use the Poncho ones.
    Joined: May 5, 2015
    Posts: 948


    Be careful, next thing you know, it will be all apart in the garage.
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  9. coolbreeze1340
    Joined: Aug 18, 2009
    Posts: 1,340

    from Indiana

    I have at least one headlight bezel, maybe two and a bunch of other spare parts for a dart, most of it wagon stuff. I believe I have all the side trim, push button shifter assembly, windshield gasket, wiring harness, etc...
    Let me know what you need and I'll dig thru the shop attic.[​IMG]

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  10. I didn't vote the poll because of mixed feelings about the options. The Pontiac rings solve the issue but look super funky. (See photo attached) But I feel ya, paying almost 10% of what the car will be worth is a bitter pill to swallow.
    Get with coolbreeze1340 above and beg/buy/trade/steal the Dart pieces if he has them.

  11. I like them! I can't believe they mate up that well....
    I do think that if you're going to use them they should be molded.

    Are you planning any other custom mods or just replacing the headlight bezels?
  12. brad2v
    Joined: Jun 29, 2009
    Posts: 1,648


    This is precisely what I'm trying to avoid, cuz yeah, these things can snowball FAST

    I'll send you a PM

    It's just gonna get the trim holes filled, the thing's just a beater/parts chaser, so I REALLY don't want this to turn into a splattered all over the garage multi-year project. Long term it'll get some custom type attention, but for now I just want to get it all one color.
  13. I say use them then. Just bolt them on......

    If you don't mold them, you can always change them later.
    I think they look cool. Still can't believe how well they line up!
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  14. brad2v
    Joined: Jun 29, 2009
    Posts: 1,648


    I know, it's bizarre, they line up as well as the OE ones. And agreed, if I bolt 'em on, and decide it does in fact look like this[​IMG]
    I can unbolt 'em
  15. shivasdad
    Joined: May 27, 2007
    Posts: 562

    from Texas

    Run those noses, I mean trim rings. Pretty cool as is.
  16. The Poncho bezel looks pretty droopy compared to the style of the rest of the car

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  17. Bugguts
    Joined: Aug 13, 2011
    Posts: 704


    Big time droopy. Search out some used but decent originals. I think others are too quick to say go for it cause they don't have to look at it again everyday.
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  18. brad2v
    Joined: Jun 29, 2009
    Posts: 1,648


    Coolbreeze might have me hooked up on a stock ring. Nonetheless, I think I'll get another Pontiac one as well and paint em with the car. I can throw them on now and then when I want it to look even weirder than it does stock. The ol girl aint exactly the height of of automotive styling anyway. She's no jag xke

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  19. plym49
    Joined: Aug 9, 2008
    Posts: 2,797

    from Earth

    What he said. They take away from the appearance of the car. Lose 'em.

    EDIT: They might work if you lay them back so that the top line of the fender is straight across the top of the bezels.
  20. brad2v
    Joined: Jun 29, 2009
    Posts: 1,648


    Gotta give a big thanks to coolbreeze. He made me a GREAT deal on an OE one. Good dude. Kudos
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