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Technical One learns by their mistakes

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by blazedogs, Oct 4, 2020.

  1. blazedogs
    Joined: Sep 22, 2014
    Posts: 470


    Recessed a firewall 4 inches in a recent car build and it made a nightmare for the steering, brake and gas pedals and wiring locations. Was time and money wasted. It turned out I would not have had to do it from the beginning. I anticipated wrong Poor planning & measuring!! Be careful what you do.. Gene
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  2. I’ve went to plan B more than once, and beyond that a few times. Don’t beat yourself up. It happens to all of us.
  3. 1oldtimer
    Joined: Aug 21, 2003
    Posts: 8,034


    No big deal, keep the recess for another project (can use pieces or the whole thing).
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  4. Stu D Baker
    Joined: Mar 4, 2005
    Posts: 2,659

    Stu D Baker
    from Illinois

    Plan B???? Hell I consistently hover around plan E.
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  5. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 29,607


    If you don't make a mistake once in a while you have never actually done anything.

    Try working on a little off topic truck and checking the firing order on line and wiring it and then figuring out that you got your big bang out the exhaust because you had used the wiring diagram for a same brand car with the same size but completely different engine after more research .
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  6. Plan ? It's a 26 step program.
  7. blazedogs
    Joined: Sep 22, 2014
    Posts: 470


    Mock up a similar engine block in the location where you want it to sit in the frame. Then measure & study before you start cutting things up daaa
  8. Jalopy Joker
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
    Posts: 27,052

    Jalopy Joker

    hopefully we learn - measure/measure; mock up; temporarily install components, measure more, remove, etc - research/ask questions, etc - keep at it - even the big name builders make major mistakes
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  9. Model A Gomez
    Joined: Aug 26, 2006
    Posts: 1,472

    Model A Gomez

    I usually do everything at least twice before I'm happy with it. I've mocked a car completely up, blew it apart to rebuild everything and paint it and then something won't fit. If you're not doing it twice it's probably wrong !
  10. goldmountain
    Joined: Jun 12, 2016
    Posts: 2,943


    I have a Zip's water pump riser on my other car and it works great so I used it to make a jig to build one myself. After finishing it, discovered that a regular water pump centered the fan on the radiator just fine. A lot of work for nothing so I gave it away to a co-worker with a Model A.
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  11. jetnow1
    Joined: Jan 30, 2008
    Posts: 1,833

    from CT
    1. A-D Truckers

    Too err is human, the problem is no one forgets when you do. The lessons we learn by actually doing something are permanent, especially those we have to redo. Just think how much you have learned.
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  12. LAROKE
    Joined: Sep 5, 2007
    Posts: 1,914


    The difference between an expert and a novice is that the novice has not made any mistakes yet.
  13. Petejoe
    Joined: Nov 27, 2002
    Posts: 10,961

    from Zoar, Ohio

    It’s not so much the extra time that lets you down. I kick myself when I have to throw the extra money at it.
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  14. alanp561
    Joined: Oct 1, 2017
    Posts: 1,697


    On my 27T build, I'm pretty sure I'm somewhere around plan X + 1

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
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  15. wicarnut
    Joined: Oct 29, 2009
    Posts: 7,538


    In my Trades, ( Tool & Die Maker, Pattern Maker ) there are no mistakes, engineering improvements as required. The difference between an apprentice and a journeyman, the journeyman knows how to correct his mistakes with engineering improvements. Everybody learns from their experiences, exception is the fool that keeps making the same mistakes over and over, we all know some of these guys.
  16. KenC
    Joined: Sep 14, 2006
    Posts: 616


    That title is just not true. And I can prove it. If it was so, I'd be the smartest guy in the world. That's how many mistakes I've made. But, still not smart.
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  17. ramblin dan
    Joined: Apr 16, 2018
    Posts: 2,602

    ramblin dan

    Been there, done that, and bought the T-shirt. My grandfather used to say look twice and shoot once. I'm still working on that one.
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  18. Measure twice, cut once and learn to weld.
  19. Paul
    Joined: Aug 29, 2002
    Posts: 15,409


    I moved this thread as it's original placement required minor adjustment
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  20. X-cpe
    Joined: Mar 9, 2018
    Posts: 1,191


    Many is the time I've come up with a complicated solution, only to have the simple, elegant solution become apparent between half way to all the way to completion of the original.

    Its when you repeat mistakes that you need to assess whether that's the type of activity you should be doing.
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  21. 37slantback
    Joined: May 31, 2010
    Posts: 429


    Thats where all my extra parts and components come from...
  22. Tow Truck Tom
    Joined: Jul 3, 2018
    Posts: 141

    Tow Truck Tom
    from Clayton DE

    The stand I take is, this is a hobby ( maybe ). When working, you work for yourself, you be da boss. If there is a mistake made, be a NICE boss, have a session where notes and rules are considered and made. Then post your shenanigans on H. A. M. B.:D
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  23. Man plans............God laughs.
  24. belair
    Joined: Jul 10, 2006
    Posts: 8,717


    Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.
  25. Fortunateson
    Joined: Apr 30, 2012
    Posts: 4,132


    Perhaps you applied your paint too heavily? LOL
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  26. wicarnut
    Joined: Oct 29, 2009
    Posts: 7,538


    Life Is kinda Funny IMO, In my case, When young I thought I knew everything, then I was sure I knew everything, now old can't remember anything. Still having fun, walking/talking/typing and most times making sense at least to me. I think my signature covers it for me.
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  27. flatheadpete
    Joined: Oct 29, 2003
    Posts: 10,191

    from Burton, MI

    I bought a part for an O/T project years ago. The instructions said 'Easy as 1-2-3'. I got to part K and damn near set it on fire...on purpose.
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  28. MMM1693
    Joined: Feb 8, 2009
    Posts: 603


    Over engineered, not mistakes
  29. Illustrious Hector
    Joined: Jun 15, 2020
    Posts: 148

    Illustrious Hector
    from Alberta

    I too recently put a recessed firewall in a Model A closed cab with, in hindsight, some regret. It only challenges us to find a solution in re: seats , pedals etc. One member on here posted "If you fail to plan, you should plan to fail." The objective is fewer trips back to the drawing board.
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2020
  30. partsdawg
    Joined: Feb 12, 2006
    Posts: 2,975

    from Minnesota

    Everything I do looks good in my head.
    Sadly, my head to hand coordination sucks.

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