I honestly believe you can't really compare what we had in the 60/70's to whats available today.. I remember when the Pro Stock class first started.. Low 10's and I believe Grump did the first 9.. What are they running today??? Todays car/engine combo's are very deceiving. Like what's been said before, tight, solid, quiet and smooth handling sure changes the perception of speed and power.. Old: 68 Hemi RR...3900lbs, 4 speed, Verti-Gate shifter, Stock bore,Mallory Ignition, JR Headers, Erson Cam. 4:10 gears= low 12's at 120. app 6 mpg New: 91 stang 3000lbs, 5 speed, 3:73 gears, Dart block 331 CID,8:1 compression, F-1 Procharger, MSD Ignition, Big pulley to kill boost= Lets just say well north of 600 on the chassis dyno.. 17-18 MPG on pump gas.. and the a/c is still hooked up and working! This thing would put a royal hurting on the old toad!