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Technical ***November 2021 Banger Meet Thread - Stay Warm***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Nov 2, 2021.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 422

    Jiminy
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    Link to previous month: October 2021

    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    Stay safe.


    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
    phone: 951-695-7313.


    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:
    http://www.fordgarage.com/


    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055


    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/


    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html


    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461


    Helpful Model A tools and tips:
    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html


    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109


    Elrod's stuck head tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487


    Model A generator to alternator conversion:
    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html


    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465


    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/


    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
    http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm
     
  2. Checking in! On paternity leave for the next two months so I wont be getting anything done
     
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  3. Went for my first ride in a model a - a 30 tudor converted to sedan delivery. Needed too much work to suit me, but honestly how do you get these things to make 100 mph?
     
  4. Going to Velocity Invitational at Laguna Seca next week. Hopefully our work in the last 90 days will mitigate our dismal showing at the track last August!
    2021RMMR(8).jpg
     

  5. Figure in a lot of money; and hours upon hours of work! After literally thousands of each, with 'Tall Gears", my little car hit 138 mph down the back straight at California (come AAA) Speedway in Fontana CA!
     
  6. cubic dollars
    J
     
  7. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    Drafting behind and 18 wheeler in the interstate....
     
  8. stubbsrodandcustom
    Joined: Dec 28, 2010
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    stubbsrodandcustom
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    from Spring tx

    Pot of gold may work better...
     
  9. That’s what I was worried about. Cubic dollars made me laugh! Thanks for the responses, appreciate it.
     
  10. or as the old adage says “how do you make a small fortune in motor sport’s”?
    Start with a large one…
    J
     
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  11. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    from Colorado

    Still in the mid sixties here so I’m still getting some rides in.
     
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  12. Phil Damon
    Joined: May 8, 2020
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    from San Diego

    Checking in. Waiting on a call that my block is done at the machine shop.
     
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  13. burl
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 770

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    from Minnesota

    Checking in for the month goin backward so i can go forward working on chassis stuff to fit db to ford IMG_5231.jpg IMG_5233.jpg IMG_5235.jpg
     
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  14. G_Don
    Joined: Feb 17, 2017
    Posts: 43

    G_Don

    No work on the banger, but got the plumbing all done on the juice brake conversion I started two weeks ago. Also got a nice 4" dropped axle under there.

    Happy November!!
    Gordy
     

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  15. Fabber McGee
    Joined: Nov 22, 2013
    Posts: 1,111

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    Dang Burl, I'm liking your shop. Mine is bigger, but almost never has that much concrete showing, haha. How many TV's you got in there? I think I spotted 2 on just one wall, fancier than mine too.
     
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  16. stubbsrodandcustom
    Joined: Dec 28, 2010
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    stubbsrodandcustom
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    from Spring tx

    Making headway... Drove to her first show last saturday... I had heard the Thomas 7.1 head caused vibrations, now I can attest that its deff not as smooth as a lower CR head... But the power is deff nice to have, taking off in 2nd all the time... Few pics from the outing last weekend.

    COUPE 52.jpg COUPE 53.jpg COUPE 55.jpg
     
  17. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 696

    railcarmover

    Waiting on glass to seal up the big pneumonia holes in the doors. Its 'I need manifold heat time' again. This year I'm going to do something about it.. seriously.. thinking about wrapping the manifold with tubing, running hot water heat, make it look like a still..
     
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  18. stubbsrodandcustom
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    do it right you can rely on thermosiphon and make it look cool and function well.
     
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  19. wheeltramp brian
    Joined: Jun 11, 2010
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    Checking in for the month ,fired up the thing to charge the battery and just like usual first tap of the starter and fires up and idles nice just got up clean out the cat hair from the Beast has been living in here. Going to drive it to work Friday 20211103_172539.jpg 20211103_172530.jpg
     
  20. Dedsoto
    Joined: Jan 7, 2014
    Posts: 188

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    from Australia
    1. Aussie HAMBers

    G'day guys,
    I have a haemorrhaging rear main and have just pulled the cap with a little guidance from @Barrelnose pickup

    Here's the cap as removed
    20211104_192650.jpg 20211104_192659.jpg


    And the shims
    20211104_192707.jpg 20211104_192719.jpg

    Are these single shims or do I need to peel them apart? Does the cap look ok for a beater? I may have a re babbited cap laying around but no more shims, what's my best course of action here?

    Another thing of note is this lifter valley breather, good or bad?

    20211104_192734.jpg

    Thanks for any advice
    Paul
     
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  21. Joebrownvw
    Joined: Feb 16, 2020
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    Just installed my lightened flywheel and v8 clutch.
    Not far off firing it up for the first time since rebuilding 20211102_191442.jpg
     
  22. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 696

    railcarmover

    00to.jpg

    I got one of those fancy vintage precision t stat set ups.. figure Ill braze a fitting in a water inlet to complete the loop..it wont be thermo siphon but it will see pump flow, with the stat she warms up quickly.
     
  23. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 696

    railcarmover


    You can dabble a little solder in the cracks,it might help make that thrust bearing last..
     
  24. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,260

    V4F
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    from middle ca.

    just hangin out ............. steve
     

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  25. stubbsrodandcustom
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    I agree with what was said earlier, some solder may get you some years out of it for sure...

    Here is what complete failure looks like...This poured out of the rear main badly... But little motor still ran smooth as hell... Hated to pull her and set her to the side but Ill get to it one day...
     

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  26. noboD
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    As to your comment about taking a main bearing from the shelf that has good babbit to replace it I don't think you can do that.
     
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  27. Took Pop's coop out for a ride in the hills, no, this is not the brothel...
    Popskoop1.jpeg
     
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  28. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
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    railcarmover

    TIMESAVER-YELLOW-CAPTION.jpg
    Yes you can, if the crank is the same size or over the size of the bearing.. same is a matter of shimming, or you use a bearing knife and cut the babbit to fit..scotchbrite can cut babbit as well, or 'timesaver', a compound used to cut assembled babbit bearings, akin to lapping compound.
     
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  29. noboD
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    Never mind!
     
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  30. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.



    i would think "line bore" would be necessary
     

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