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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

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    I just re-discovered this post from page 521 about the big-valve 327/250 in 1965.
    Best I can Gonkulate, that made the 1965-only 327/250 one of the most underrated engines ever.
    This made the 1965 327/250 essentially what became the 327/275, but rated at only 250.
    So why wasn't the combo an instant hit in NHRA?
    I find lots of 327/250 national "wins", but most are 1962-64 cars, only one is a 1965 Chevelle, at 1970 Indy.

    Did NHRA factor the 1965 327/250 up higher right away or did folks just not realize the heads got bigger that year?

    EDIT: Here's a picture of the 65 Chevelle that won L/SA=12.50 at 1970 Indy:
    (I'd post the pic but cant get an answer back from Petersen on what the copyright deal is there, they have some good pics for sure)


    https://archive.petersen.org/pages/view.php?ref=351573

    (So at least in 1970, the 65-327/250 was NOT factored, otherwise this car would be too light for the L/SA=12.50 class.)
    Hard to believe they'd factor it eg in 1965, and then UNfactor it for 1970. So maybe it was just a way-underrated 250hp the whole time, an undiscovered combo.
     
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    I had been guessing at the Vaubel car, guessed 3 different combos, didnt think of the ragtop. One more mystery solved!

    I dont have ANY 59 Pontiacs (yet) in my nationals winners or records in my database. Any more backstory on the Red Nevins car pic?
     
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    I have yet to ever own a 59 but my wife told me this weekend that she really likes the looks of them so I’m hoping there will be one in my near future!! It will be great if it’s a wagon to boot! The wagon might be a stretch for my wife...Lol. Randy


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    During the 1965 era, arbitrary factoring of combinations was relatively uncommon especially in the lower horsepower production cars. Some of the factory-produced hot rods were presented with immediate class changes (the 1964 Galaxie Hi-Riser, for example, appeared at the Winternationals with A/SA lettered on the car but was moved to B/FX in the tech lines) but "factoring" in the sense that we are accustomed to the practice currently it now was rarely, if ever, done.

    The 1965 version of the 250 horsepower 327 didn't attain superior levels of desirability until after the Stock Eliminator "Purge" of 1972. Knowledgeable Junior Stock racers who were faced with the elimination of their sedan deliveries and tri-five Chevrolet models picked up on the advantages of the 327 for Super Stock very quickly. That motor combination was available in practically every body configuration in the Class Guide and at least one example of each model showed up over the next few years. In no time we saw '65 Nova hardtops and station wagons; Chevelle coupes, convertibles, and wagons; and one of my personal favorites, the '65 Caprice 4-door hardtop, all carrying Super Stock class designations. (The Caprice was blessed with a power/weight ratio of exactly 15 pounds per horsepower giving it a real advantage in SS/QA.) During those years it was not unusual for us to spend Sunday afternoons cruising suburban neighborhoods in search of any of the '65 models that were stashed in driveways andf back yards around the L.A. Basin. I think that one used car lot in East Los Angels sold no less than three '65s to class-conscious racers.

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    I'm a Chevy guy but those 61-64 Fords sure are nice looking!
     
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    I totally agree!


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    Excellent info! Thanks for sharing Chuck! Hope you had a good Holiday season. Regards, Randy


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    Ditto! To 61-64 Fords. Although I typed this post at 4:15PM as usual I forgot to hit "post reply"

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    31HRG for me it's solid black "150's" I have a BA but wish it was a 150.

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    Oooo I like those too. In fact I would have probably turned my black 210 in to a black 150 if I didn’t have a little local history and sentimental value.


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    The Black Del Ray originally came from 3 way Chevrolet, so it's back home now.
     

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