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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. saltflats
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    This one reminds me of the story the wife was telling me the other night.
    One of her residents was not acting right so she told them that he needs to go to the hospital and after a few hours they finally sent him off.
    He came back about a week later and thanked my wife for saving his life.
    He had gang green and if they had waited much longer he would have died.
     
  2. loudbang
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    Found a couple more of it and discovered it is actually like a M/P car check https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/modified-production.348502/page-44

    for more shots later
     
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  3. loudbang
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    ohn Thropp vs witchcraft

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    Jon Swoope A Head

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    Karbelt Lance Hill Bill Morrison

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    again



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    again different number same car or what? Extended shackles look the same

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  4. Jimbo17
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  5. Chuck Norton
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    "...again different number same car or what? Extended shackles look the same"

    I think it's the same car. Note the use of the Keystone wheels in each picture. Also, you can't relay very much with regard to car numbers prior to 1973. There were no nation-wide permanently assigned numbers before that. We got a different number for every national event in that era. That was before NHRA discovered the permanent number "cash cow" that they've milked for the last forty-five years.

    c
     
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  6. Yellow Olds on the equally yellow ramp truck in the background... Sam Stockwell? :confused:

    :rolleyes:
     
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  7. loudbang
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    I don't know.:rolleyes:
     
  8. loudbang
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    More shots of

    Fabulous Hudson Hornet

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    Illinois shaker

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    Chevy Galore

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  9. Elcohaulic
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    Always liked the look of Cragar SS wheels without the center caps....
     
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  10. DDDenny
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    Also note that it's a 1957 two-ten 2 door hardtop.
     
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  11. Thanks for posting that Lynn I just got that issue the other day and have not had time to scan it.
     
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  12. Jimbo17
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  13. Chuck Norton
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    And, that was not the most commonly found '57 body style! I've noted a remarkable number of 210 models competing in Stock. Possibly not as many 210 hardtops as there were sedan deliveries but, still...
     
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  14. DDDenny
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    Yeh, I'm gonna assume most that follow this understands the significance of pointing that out but in case some youngsters don't know it the 210 hardtops are a pretty rare car.
     
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  15. GearheadsQCE
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    How rare are they?
     
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  16. Lyn Smith
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  17. Lyn Smith
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    tried to eliminate the double post with no luck.
     
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  18. Chuck could you request a number back then? I have several ET slips that came with Kyle Marshall's delivery that used the same number from 1970 and 1971. Oddly enough it is 1833 the same as the Bill Morrison 57 210 above.
     
  19. Chuck Norton
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    That's a good question and I'm not sure of the answer. No doubt Gary Glover or Lyn Smith would be able to answer the original question more accurately. I find that some of my memories are tending to blur in some instances.

    I entered my own car for the first time at an NHRA national event, the Winternationals of 1971, and was assigned "1825". I had the number lettered on the paint of the car. (That turned out to be a rookie mistake because the next national event I entered (a year later) turned up a different number and required some hasty modifications.) Subsequently, I saw a published picture of Marv Ripes' '57 Corvette in a magazine report of the 1970 Supernationals at Ontario and his car had the same number at that event, "1825." I would think that Marv, being a seasoned and knowledgeable competitor, would have requested the same number for the very next race if it were an option or, possibly, it didn't matter to him if he was putting the number on the window.

    Anyway, a real problem could have been presented by putting the 6" high number on the side windows of a Corvette because, as you can see in the attached picture, it would have presented a distinct problem with lateral vision. I had been racing the car in AHRA and local brackets for six or seven years before I ventured into NHRA Stock Eliminator and I knew I needed to be able to see cross traffic in the pits and the car in the other lane on the track. By 1972, I had converted the car to SS/NA since my pre-1960 Stocker had been permanently eliminated by the rulebook. A Corvette with minimal hood clearance over the carburetor in Super Stock was a short-lived, unfruitful experiment although I was assigned a different competition number.

    In 1973 I drove a '65 Chevello station wagon in SS/QA and had plenty of room to display my shiny new permanent number "7311."
     

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  20. Chuck Norton
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    I'm glad that you asked that question because the data that I found while researching an answer are surprising to me. According to statistics posted on <http://www.trifivechevys.com>, 210 hardtops were either a lot more common than I suspected or the restoration market has changed a lot of them into Bel Air models. I don't know why I don't remember many 210 hardtops on the street. Perhaps we didn't even bother to notice them?

    Series 210 2dr hardtop 166,426
    Bel Air 2dr hardtop 22,631

    Series 210 2dr post 162,090
    Bel Air 2dr post 62,571

    Series 150 sedan delivery 7,273
     
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  21. 270283
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    Above numbers for the hardtops are transposed.
     
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  22. DDDenny
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    Sorry guys, not wanting to derail the thread.
    I'm a few years too young to have been at the dragstrip yet but I do know that over the years I've only seen a couple of the 210 hardtops personally and most magazine coverage was of the BelAirs.
    Chuck
    I looked also and though I'm usually suspect of any numbers not published by GM this is what I found.


    1957 Chevrolet Production Model Numbers

    Built Percentage of Total

    150 Series, 6cyl & 8 Cyl
    1502 2dr sedan 71,135 4.55
    1503 4dr sedan 56,418 3.61
    1508 2dr sedan delivery 8,907 0.57
    1512 2dr utililty sedan 8,817 0.56
    1529 2dr Handyman station wagon 15,087 0.97
    150 Series Total 160,364 10.26


    210 Series, 6cyl & 8 Cyl
    2102 2dr sedan 162,851 10.43
    2103 4dr sedan 273,696 17.53
    2109 4dr Townsman station wagon 128,941 8.26
    2113 4dr hardtop sport sedan 18,206 1.16
    2119 4dr Beauville station wagon 23,952 1.53
    2124 2dr Delray club coupe 25,952 1.66
    2129 2dr Handyman station wagon 17,996 1.15
    2154 2dr hardtop sport coupe sedan 23,092 1.48
    210 Series Total 674,596 43.20


    BelAir Series, 6cyl & 8 Cyl
    2402 2dr sedan 62,942 4.03
    2403 4dr sedan 264,449 16.93
    2409 4dr Beauville station wagon 27,822 1.78
    2413 4dr hardtop sport coupe 142,518 9.13
    2429 2dr Nomad station wagon 6,264 0.40
    2434 2dr convertible 48,068 3.08
    2454 2dr hardtop sport coupe 168,293 10.78
    BelAir Series Total 720,356 46.13


    Corvette
    2934 2dr convertible 6,339 0.41


    ** 1957 Grand Total 1,561,655 100.00

    Reference: Motorbooks International,
    Tri-Chevy Red Book by Peter C. Sessler
    Marvin's Homepage

    https://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422
     
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  23. Chuck Norton
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    Well, so much for <http://www.trifivechevys.com>!! I positively won't be relying on that site for critical statistics again. Actually, transposing the numbers for hardtop production really serves to restore a level of confidence in what I thought that I remembered. Thanks for clearing that up.

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  24. 1934coupe
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    Jimbo you are right, Matty Winspur has restored it and there is a model of it. It has been at the Dover Nostalgia drags unrestored, I haven't seen it finished. Lots about it on Dover site.

    Pat
     
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  25. Jimbo17
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    Pat:
    I received a call from Dino a few weeks ago and he told me some guy is writing a book about Dick Moroso and he gave the guy my name and phone number. I first met Dick when I was about 15 years old and he was still living with his mother and father at the time. This was way before he started the business. Should be interesting. Jimbo
     
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  26. loudbang
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    Neja & Dissette

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    again
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    New Dodge Super Stock

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    North Carolina

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    posted by nhranut in the vintage thread

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  27. loudbang
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    1.JPG

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    65 GTO

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    Alex Jerrel Farm Wagon


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    Blue Goose

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  28. impala4speed
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    Loudbang, thanks for posting all these great pics here (and in other threads too). I really enjoy seeing them.
     
  29. No information on the cars but I am pretty sure this is the Temple Acadamy track in Texas. Alot of guys that were stationed at Fort Hood attended or raced here. It is still around today.
     
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  30. loudbang
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    James Waibel's Fugitive Sedan

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    James Waibel Hardtop

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    Joe Allread

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