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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.
1964 Division 4 champ Don Thomas
Gene McDanial and Jim Hayters "Hootnanny"
Does anyone know what kind of wheels those are on that F.I. '57?? 6 slots on the front and 5 slots on the back!
I was wondering the same thing. I've seen some made in aluminium but these appear to be steel.
A 150 FI car in white, what else can a guy want? I'm just going to pretend it's a 283 HP solid lifter engine with 4:11s. and nothing else, biz coupe, stationary rear glass, no heat, no radio. Dream car for a tri 5 dork like me.
there NOT cragar super tricks
Interesting catch on the front slots. It appears the Black Widows came with 6 lug hubs....hmmm, couldn't be, could it?!
White car pick is pretty fuzzy, could it be 6?
Six lug wheels were a part of the package. See more: <http://www.57chevyblackwidow.com/facts.html>
Thanks for posting the 57's Junior Stock! What class is that white 150? Yeah chevy57dude, nothing beats a white 57 150, but I would have to have a bigger rear gear, like 5:38.
Most likely D/Stock, like Stahl's car
I thought all the 57 Black Widow cars came with 6 lug wheels for the Nascar guys who were racing them at the time.
That is my understanding as well. And I believe that almost all of these cars were 270hp (dual WCFB's) rather than 283hp F.I. But I am not certain.
Yes D/S, you can barely make it out on the passanger window.
Astros are the only chrome steel wheel I know of back then with those type slots, but they just look different to me. Also notice the large hub on the rear. Maybe it is a 6 lug and maybe it is/was a Black Widow??
I'm holding the screen far away. There's 5 shadows for lug nuts on the front of the FI car.
Ralph Ridgeway...belongs in the Modified Production thread.
Thanks Mark. It's outahere!
These are some pictures Wheezer on here took in Tulsa back in 67-69.
Can anyone post information about the Pontiac wagon posted above? I've always been fond of the old Pontiacs. Thanks,
Junior Stocks picture posts show 2 57 Convertibles getting it. I thought the X member made them undesirable for class. Did any convertibles with any combination fit?? Guys, any ideas??? Did anybody run one competitively ????
To answer that question definitively, one would need to sit down with the classification guide and the weight/horsepower "breaks" that were applied in a specific year. Based on current class weight breaks, no '57 Chevy convertible model would have been really very competitive in any given class. The question is complicated by the fact that, while horsepower was horsepower in those days and was not subject to change, the weight breaks to determine which combinations fit any particular class were not a constant. For example, when I first became involved with Stock Eliminator, the bottom of A/SA was 8.7 pounds per horsepower. Later, the breaks were adjusted to half-pound increments, i.e. A/SA 8.0 to 8.5 pounds per horsepower. I don't recall the rest of the breaks in 1963 but in order for a car to be competitive, it would have needed to have a ratio that didn't penalize it with extra weight (such as an A/SA that broke at 9.2 pounds per horsepower). In those days, racers were required to run no lighter than the EXACT shipping weight for that specific model. No leeway was granted for the weight of a driver so featherweight drivers were in big demand. Think of the disadvantage that a BIG driver such as BIG John Barkley carried! I really believe that if a convertible had possessed a favorable weight/horsepower ratio, it would have been on the track. You may have seen pictures of "Big Daddy" Russ Matthews' 1960 Buick convertible in G/SA, for example.
Beautiful cars; two 57 Chevrolet convertibles on the drag strip at the same time; who'd thought that was even possible to see? And the orange 57, model 150, it looks like the guy is about to crawl out through the windshield. Guess "he" really wanted to get to the stripe first! Great pics Tim. I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
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