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History NHRA Junior Stock

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. Chuck Norton
    Joined: Apr 23, 2009
    Posts: 667

    Chuck Norton
    Member
    from Division 7

    I'm no expert but I'd guess that was a device that was intended to stabilize the somewhat marginal rear suspension on the X-frame '62 chassis. Those cars had coil springs with dual lower trailing arms but only one factory upper trailing arm that wasn't all that substantial, especially for a stick 409 car. During that era there was lots of experimentation with chassis set-ups. It seems to me that Joe Smith, tuner and driver for the Fenner-Tubbs dealership in Texas had traction bars that reached almost to the rear bumper.

    On the other hand, it might be something like a concealed dump for a moonshine tank, in which case, I never said anything about it and I'm not even sure that I can see what you're talking about.

    c
     

  2. That's Jerry Ryan's Olds and he DOES still have it today.
     
  3. Paul Ceasrine
    Joined: Mar 31, 2010
    Posts: 387

    Paul Ceasrine
    Member
    from Wilton, CT

    'Rico Suave'

    General information you asked for.
    I tried a PM, but would not go through.

    1967 Plymouth Barracuda convertible, with a 383/280 HP, 4-speed.
    Car weight = 3224 lbs.
    11.51 wt/hp, which meant it fell into D/S in 1967 (11.30 - 11.88).

    But in 1968, it would have a good weight break, as it would fall into
    H/S (11.50 - 11.99).

    Unfortunately, only '9' of those 67' Barracuda convertibles, with a 383 4-speed were built.
    Bet not one was raced on a 'regular' basis back then.

    Low horsepower rating was due to a de-tweaked Carter 525 AFB carburetor,
    poor flowing intake manifold, and restrictive dual-exhaust system (1 7/8" piping)
    and pretzel-shaped driver side exhaust manifold.

    pc
     
  4. Try this one out for size! :D Or did you have a different pic in mind?

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  5. DW31S
    Joined: Mar 4, 2009
    Posts: 145

    DW31S
    Member
    from Sparks,MD

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me why my last two posts have been deleted? Both were about a picture taken many years ago of a silver '68 442 race car. The personal notification section in my message area said the first post was removed because of an "Off Topic Vehicle" and the second (also pertaining to the same car) was removed and the reason given was "Drama". I really don't understand, and I'm not trying to cause any problem or stir up anything, but I thought I was asking appropriate questions. I think everybody here knows I am a dyed-in-the-wool Oldsmobile guy, and I would like to know more about that car if possible. Thanks in advance, Dave.
     
  6. Paul Ceasrine
    Joined: Mar 31, 2010
    Posts: 387

    Paul Ceasrine
    Member
    from Wilton, CT

    The pre-1964 rule is intact.
    But I have a 1969 question.
    Can anyone post the 1964 NHRA National Records.
    Both Stock and Super/Stock.

    Trying to find some info on AA/SA and F/S.

    Thanks Paul
     
  7. Simon and Biebel
    Joined: Oct 15, 2009
    Posts: 166

    Simon and Biebel
    Member
    from N.J.

    I had a post nixed and have no idea why....makes no sense to me but it's not my site...

    You want memories....You want get anymore from me....See ya....
     
  8. Lost Creep
    Joined: Oct 30, 2009
    Posts: 92

    Lost Creep
    Member
    from Indiana

    Rich,

    I hope you change your mind....

    but if you don't, I want to thank you for all your post's. You have shared a lot of stories and added many facts about racing back then that I was unaware of. I'm just a 54 year old who has bracket raced and time-run off and on since 1975 and I've never won a dollar - but guys like you were what inspired me to race. I know most people say when bracket racing started they would rather stay home than bracket race.... but when you have been reading about Junior Stockers in car/drag magazines from the mid sixties to the early seventies and you get your drivers license in 1972....well, you do what you can and I wanted to go down that dragstrip as fast and as often as possible, and because of the Junior Stock influence I had the right atmosphere inside my car and the right thoughts inside my head - again because of guys like you.
    Sorry for ramblin on but reading your "see ya" sounded too final.
    Take care Rich

    Eddie
     
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  9. Max Wedge S/SA
    Joined: Jul 6, 2009
    Posts: 18

    Max Wedge S/SA
    Member
    from USA

    Sorry that this thread is going south. Here is the final view of my '63 that I raced since new then retired it because of my age.....not the Plymouths'
     

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  10. Max Wedge S/SA
    Joined: Jul 6, 2009
    Posts: 18

    Max Wedge S/SA
    Member
    from USA


    Maybe one more picture, I'm still proud of it..
     

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  11. Logus
    Joined: Dec 29, 2009
    Posts: 2

    Logus
    Member
    from Pa

    Here's a couple of posts, commenting on the subject of what's accepted,

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3800693&postcount=11

    This is from the first link, below, on forum rules.

    "The cut off date for the entire HAMB is 1964."

    "Not a sliding scale, because that date was chosen to keep the Musclecars and Ponycars out."

    There seems to be exceptions, but common thread seems to be keeping the Musclecars and Ponycars out. Don't seem to like the idea of any geek, etc. who can't change a plug, or check the oil walk into a dealership and "BUY" a "FACTORY BUILT HOTROD", even though they could have got a 62/64 406, 409, 421, 427, 413, 426, etc. a couple of years earlier.

    I might not be right, but I think a good example, of an exception, year wise. might be a 66 Chevy II. A cheapy post coupe that came with 6 cyl., 3 spd, and "BUILT" into a pseudo gasser, ala, straight axle, injector stacks and/or scoop, radius wheel wells, etc., that some guy built in his garage, would be OK!
    Now, if that same guy, in 1966, went down to the Chevrolet dealer and "BOUGHT" a new 1966 Chevy II, L79 327, 4 spd, 12 Bolt, etc., that would "NOT be OK" !!!


    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6467145&postcount=9

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6416370&postcount=2

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5474691&postcount=6
     
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  12. Alaskam5
    Joined: Jul 7, 2009
    Posts: 6

    Alaskam5
    Member
    from Alaska

    Just my 2 cents. There have been plenty of threads on 65 thru 71 cars (even multiple pictures of these cars) that have not been deleted. I raced a 68 in the old stock class before we were all forced to go to SS in NHRA. But not my site so rules are rules.
     
  13. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 10,715

    metalshapes
    Tech Editor

    Yes there are.

    We cant find them all ( and sometimes when we do find them they have been around for a while )

    All the Mods here are volunteers, we also have our real jobs...

    Having Users post lots of O/T pics and Drama like on this Thread, uses up more of that time.
    ( some of these Users have had lots of posts Deleted already, and should know better by now )

    If you see anything that doesnt belong on the HAMB, please use the Report Button to let the Mods know.



    If any more discussion about this is necessary, please go to the Q & S Forum for that.

    And Post things that are Relevant and On Topic on the HAMB.
     
  14. Cristina Yurkiw
    Joined: Jun 21, 2011
    Posts: 3

    Cristina Yurkiw
    Member
    from Las Vegas

    If I can help I will. Let me know what exactly I should do?
     
  15. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 19,768

    Ryan
    ADMINISTRATOR
    Staff Member

    Just a sidebar of sorts. For those of you looking to explore the word of later model (post 64) jr. stockers, check out dogfightmag.com. Those kinds of posts are welcomed there.

    Carry on.
     
  16. Cristina Yurkiw
    Joined: Jun 21, 2011
    Posts: 3

    Cristina Yurkiw
    Member
    from Las Vegas

    that is very nice. i am happy to hear you know dad.
     
  17. Paul Ceasrine
    Joined: Mar 31, 2010
    Posts: 387

    Paul Ceasrine
    Member
    from Wilton, CT

    R/T,

    Post # 3007

    'Nasty' Valiant

    Is that of a 1966 Valiant V-100, 2-door post (Sedan)
    The 1966 V-200 cars were 4-doors only.
    And the Signet was a hardtop or convertible only.

    If that photo is from 1969, then that was a 273/235 HP Commando.
    1969 = I/SA
    The car weighed #2808 lbs. and had a wt/hp of 11.94
    1969 I/S was 11.50 - 11.99

    pc
     
  18. Bucksnort
    Joined: Dec 24, 2007
    Posts: 3,302

    Bucksnort
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  19. copo69
    Joined: Nov 29, 2007
    Posts: 54

    copo69
    Member
    from WV

    What's everybody's opinion of migrating to Dogfight.com? I really enjoy several Hamb threads but it's their ball so they can make the rules. Several threads on Hamb could go... maybe set up threads for Jr., Super stocks, mod productions and general drag racing to maybe 1975. There are some Yahoo groups that could maybe be enticed in also.
     
  20. Lost Creep
    Joined: Oct 30, 2009
    Posts: 92

    Lost Creep
    Member
    from Indiana

    If this is truly the end of the NHRA Junior Stock thread, then it's a sad day. I will still keep coming back here to see whats going on but if this is the end...... I want to thank EVERYONE who has contributed pictures, stories, information, etc.

    And to the members of this thread who actually raced in Junior Stock and have shared their stories, memories, knowledge and pictures..... well, a Thank You just doesn't seem enough. During the Junior Stock era, the closest I could get to you racers was in my car magazines - but to get a chance to read your posts and be on this thread with you's has made me feel even closer.

    Take care guy's and Thank you all again!

    Sincerely,
    Eddie
     
  21. BadNews
    Joined: Dec 7, 2009
    Posts: 96

    BadNews
    Member

    Thanks for the heads up.... have enjoyed the photos and discussions on this site and no doubt will check in on occassion....made the mistake of not reading the rules myself......while always thinking of the tri-fives as the unmistakable "Junior Stockers", nothing in my opinion said it more to me than the '66 Biscayne/Bel Airs .... the final round of Boertmans' '59
    Chevy against Billy Izykowski's "Paranoia" '66 Biscayne IS what Junior Stock means to me.....any motor, any body, as long as it's fast and cool.
    Thanks for the memories...See ya on the "Dark Side"....goin' to check out
    Dogfight.com....:confused:
     
  22. 67 W-30
    Joined: Aug 18, 2009
    Posts: 349

    67 W-30
    Member
    from N.E. Ohio

    What a shame! I knew those last 3 posts of mine would get AXED! I've truly enjoyed this thread for the last 3 years. I've made some great new friendships out here! I want to personally thank Colesy for generating this great forum. If this thread had died, please let me know where we are going to "migrate" to! Theres lots of good stuff on Facebook,, but its just not the same as on here where real in-the-day racers have told some good stories and provided some really great pix! Thanks for the memories! My picture file really thanks YOU ALL!! I'm gonna continue to check in every day. Its a habit i have developed!!
    I still may make it to York, but am not yet sure!!
     
  23. X-TECH MAN
    Joined: Mar 21, 2009
    Posts: 317

    X-TECH MAN
    Member
    from Florida

    Check in with Colsey or Chuck Norton at the end of July. Better things ahead.:)
     
  24. spiderdeville
    Joined: Jun 30, 2007
    Posts: 1,134

    spiderdeville
    Member
    from BOGOTA,NJ

    love them fifties cars
     
  25. spiderdeville
    Joined: Jun 30, 2007
    Posts: 1,134

    spiderdeville
    Member
    from BOGOTA,NJ

    post the 442 photos at yellow bullet lol
     
  26. LOWDOWN2
    Joined: Jul 13, 2009
    Posts: 135

    LOWDOWN2
    Member
    from Ontario

    1.348 million "hits", 10,000 posts on 500 pages...and "adios"?

    Wow.

    Thanks most sincerely to absolutely EVERYONE who's contributed. And to those who will continue to.

    "Friends", indeed.
     
  27. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 10,715

    metalshapes
    Tech Editor

    Not Adios at all.

    If that was the case, you wouldnt still be able to post on this Thread, it would be gone.

    All we ask is for the content to be respectful of the HAMB guidelines.
    And for the Off Topic content to be posted somewhere else.
    (in a Soicial Group, The Dogfight Forum, or even somewhere outside of the Atomic network.)

    We really do appriciate the On Topic content that has been posted, and we are only trying to minimise the content that is Off Topic.
    Same goes for all the Drama...
     
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  28. Bob W
    Joined: Sep 14, 2008
    Posts: 687

    Bob W
    Member
    from Here

    After all these years I still like reading the old Jr. Stock write-ups from magazines of the "old-daze".

    I'm still collecting pieces and parts but I'm getting there. There still has to be good stuff from the proper era out there.

    Colesy, "your the man".
     
  29. BadNews
    Joined: Dec 7, 2009
    Posts: 96

    BadNews
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  30. 270283
    Joined: Jun 11, 2006
    Posts: 418

    270283
    Member

    Could this whole thread be moved lock, "stock" and barrel to a Social Group or in it's entirety to the Dogfight forum? I am no computer whiz but was just wondering if that would be a way to save this. It is far too enjoyable and I feel historically important to just fade away.
     

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