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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Omarsvette, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. classiccarjack
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    To help destinguish between a A500 and a A518 oil pan... Screenshot_20181102-123704.jpeg

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  2. Bandit Billy
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    So, is a 500 an OD?. It has manual shift and a 3 post plug for the OD. Flat pan like you showed. I didn't know there was a difference.
     
  3. gatz
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  4. Work In Progress
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    Just to add a little to the discussion, I used a 518 out of a 92 Dakota with a 318. It is the non lockup version and takes a 727 torque converter. I also had a 727 from a 440, I transplanted the beefier guts from the 727 into the 518 including the intermediate band servo lever (went from a 2.8to 4.? ratio), used an early servo piston and added a spacer to the low/reverse band servo piston. Made a beefy little combo
    If you use a 518 from a 5.9 (360) the converter might be externally balanced. FYI

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  5. Omarsvette
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    I like the idea of the A518, so it's fine spline input?
     
  6. Omarsvette
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    Why are these two A518 different? image.png image.png
     
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  8. Omarsvette
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    So that's what all the 4x4 cases look like?
     
  9. s55mercury66
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    Yes. As a general rule, they have a tailshaft housing that the transfer case bolts to. The tail shaft itself will be shorter, but a 2wd tail shaft can be installed, along with the 2wd tail shaft housing, giving you a 2wd trans. I would imagine a 4wd small block 727 would not be hard to find, especially in a Ramcharger, if you are looking for a 727. Of course, it would need to be converted, and could be done quite easily during a rebuild, using parts from a 2wd B/RB version. The B/RB 2wd one seems to be the easy 2wd version to find around here.
     
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  10. Omarsvette
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    And the visual difference between A518 and a 727 is the three pin connector, torq converter bolts, and a deeper oil pan on the A518, but the same shape.
     
  11. Omarsvette
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    And it looks like the 727 has a thinner tail housing (thinker housing for o/d?)with no mounting holes. image.png image.png
     
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  12. Omarsvette
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    image.png As far as 727 goes, these won't accept a traditional yoke?
     
  13. bundoc bob
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    Pre-65 had a 4 bolt yoke like that pic, both 904 and 727. 66 and up had the new style splined output and standard length tail housing [2WD] and again, 904 and 727 had those changes in 66. 65 is an orphan, splined output shaft, but a different length. 65 also retained the cable shift. 66 and up went to mechanical linkage.
    904s are actually 6 cyl only in the later model years, in the early years it was used [with a different case] for both slant 6s and the 273 later the 318 got a 904LA with double-wrap lo-reverse band [case is different] along with other upgrades. Later it became the 998 and there was a 999 for 360s, which got a wider kickdown band/drum and an extra front clutch plate. There are also 4 speed OD versions of the 998/999 called, in the early days the A-500. All the later 904 family and A-500s got the wide ratio gear set, easy to tell because the planetary carriers went from cast aluminum to welded/folded steel.
     
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  14. classiccarjack
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    They made it simpler, they added the weight to the flexplate. The earlier 727's used weights on the Torque Converter itself. All lock up OD's behind a 5.2 or a 5.9 have the same converter....

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    Beat me to it...

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  17. Omarsvette
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    I was at a swap meet this past week end. Saw a th350 for $350 but kept walking to see what else was available, I'm keeping my options open being that I'm going to need a adapter no matter what tranny I get. For some reason I'm stuck on a mopar tranny. I'm looking for a s10 rear, they fit perfect but I'm wondering if the dodge Dakota is the same width. Maybe it would be nice to keep it all mopar?
     
  18. 73RR
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    There are several good rear end choices at the bone yards. Check my web page for measurements of a couple popular units.

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  19. enjenjo
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    S10 2x4 is 54" S10 4x4 is 58" Dakota is 60" Explorer 8.8 is 55"
     
  20. mikeselcamino65
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    Hey thought I'd put in my 2 cents worth...I just finished a 354 rebuild and I think the best easiest route for a trans is an adapter plate and flywheel...(there are several available) for a chevy t350 or t400, 700r...
    and if you get the driver side starter location you can use a block mounted oil filter adapter...
    The chevy converters are cheap and so are the shifters... Stuff is easy to find and work great...
     
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  21. I envy you your rare 4bbl manifold w/ the thermostat housing. Consider keeping it (very good design. Chrysler was a leader in manifold technology in the day) and modifying it for a bigger, modern carb by boring it with a hole saw and using a carb adaptor. Here is how I did it on my 354 manifold for my Holley 3bbl.
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  22. Omarsvette
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    I agree. Tying to find a 727 or OD 727 is harder than my finding my hemi. I got a th350 brand new for 550. With converter.
     
  23. Omarsvette
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    Thank you. And I'm impressed with your intake mod. Didn't think it could be done. I am planning on keeping the intake. Especially cuz of its rarity.
     
  24. Omarsvette
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    I'm starting a thread on this build in the project section. Title, 31 ford build.
     
  25. classiccarjack
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    Cool, I will definitely check it out

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  26. gimpyshotrods
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    S10 2x4 is 54", S10 4x4 is 58", Dakota is 60", Explorer 8.8 is 59-1/2".
     
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  27. Omarsvette
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    A3C31AD5-7D78-475C-B193-7F4F79645039.jpeg This is a water tube coming from the pump housing. Does anyone know where it goes?
     
  28. dang....how did I miss this Hemi post on my birthday......good stuff guys.....
     
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  29. usually that is for a heater hose connection on some mopars I believe....
     
  30. Omarsvette
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    Happy birthday. That’s what I thought. I’m thinking of plugging it. I think it’s threaded.
     

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