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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by hudson48, Dec 25, 2013.
And your post contributes to this threads topic how ?
I purchased a set of black wall American Classics a few months back. The guy that mounted them said that he had never seen a Coker tire that was round. He mounted them on my rims , gave them a spin and they hardly took any weight at all. And they are a real pleasure to look at in my opinion. I am very happy with them, and I got a HAMB alliance discount on top of it. The funny part was him arguing with me that were bias tires, not radials. He didn't buy off until he read the side wall.
I have not run these coker tires yet so can't comment on them, but the hunter machines are sweet. I spent 9 years at a dealership with one and I will say coker isn't the only tire that sells tires that vibrate. I've dealt with lots of tires that were unable to be corrected with road force, wether they were Michelin or maypops. Personally i found a lot of tires were damaged by being near the bottom of the stack for storing and shipping.
I have a new pair of coker 700x16 nostalgia radials on the rear of my ford and they wop, wop, wop
even at slow speeds. Wanted to put firestone black pie crusts on instead but you guys scared the hell of me ! I think I will buy a set of $300 cooper china tires and have a lot less money invested in another set of tires good for only rollers.
Have to amend my post about the cokers. Turns out the noise was the fact that between my bts wide five wheels and some water jet cut wide five adapters, the tires weren't the problem.
Jess from Coker contacted me via the HAMB, and sent me another pair to try. There has to be a belt issue or something with the first pair, because the second pair are MUCH better. The death wobble is gone. The "new" pair are only static balanced, nothing fancy, and took marginal weight. If anything changes I'll let you guys know.......
I also have to express my VERY GOOD experience with Jess and Coker!!!!!
Here are my Coker 560s
just inspected a set of those on a 1962 t-bird,guy has been all over town trying to cure shake and vibration,i wouldnt put them on my dumpster ,egg shaped junk just like the rest of that companies radials,its one thing to con someone out of money with junk product but to jepordise their safety is un acceptable,especially when you say you're a part of the hobby of collector cars,hypocrite in my book
Basically it has been over a year since any first hand information has been posted of Coker Firestone tires.....good or bad. How about some feedback from customers that have purchased these tires in the last year. (First hand info only please.) I was starting to think their tires must be better, cause I haven't seen any bitching on the H.A.M.B. about problems. If you have any good news....let us know!
A true radial tire is made in a segmented mold where the pie shaped opened segments of the mold move together toward the center to close the mold against the laid up bead, sidewall, belts and rubber, for curing. They can be identified by the minute rubber flash marks radially around the finished tire at intervals like a piece of pie. Look very closely.
A radial tire can also be built in a bias ply tire mold which is like a clam shell, but the tire is expanded out to the mold. This is the way the early American made radial tires were made and today some of the lower end tires from anywhere are still made in this type of mold. They can be identified by a rubber flash mark continuously around the circumference of the tire, usually in the center of the tread, sometimes down in a tread groove.
Most tire people do not know this and/or don't care.
While my American Classics in post 272 above remain rollers on my soon (I pray) to be completed roadster, several friends of mine have seen them on my car and purchased sets for their own hot rods and I have heard no complaints. My good buddy and machinist extraordinaire has them on his 5 window and loves them.
I went back threw and read a few posts on the page since I put that photo up and I saw that Bondolero made an edit on his post
That was cool of him to do that (I give him high octane kudos) and it emphasizes the point that perhaps not all of the issues guys are experiencing are due to the tires Coker delivered to our respective doorsteps.
I buy a lot of tires for a lot of different rides, Often they are from Coker or one of their dealers and I have been pleased with the quality. Just bought 4 redwall bias plys for my new Nova project, they spun out fine on the balancer.
Patiently waiting for pitchers (on the Chevy twice grill thread).
Or was that a Falcon grill thread.
Since this old thread has come back to life. I put 5.60 15 and 8.20 15 Coker American Classics on my 32 last summer. They balanced fine, and look virtually identical to the Coker Firestone bias plys I took off. They drive and ride much nicer. I've got two sets of D backs, one on topic, one off. The OT's are a Nitto carcass, the others are BFG T/A's. They all drive well on our less than well maintained roads.
I have observed both mould marks you describe. eg. Michelin XZX I had years ago had the radial marks, the Cokers I have now have the mould flash around the tread centre.
Michelin, I believe, invented radial tires and have never made a bias ply.
They started in 1889, making bicycle ties, so they've been around a long time.(Sorry for the pun.) They would have made bias I'm sure, including for race cars.
Right on, I should have said, I don't believe they ever brought bias ply here commercially. There may have been some fitted to individual cars that were imported, prior to and after WWII.
28dreyer... I would never have guessed 81. You have definitely been 'around the block', but have retained all the youth most of us 'pursue'!
Thanks for your input on tires, I have been in the 'biz' 60 years, all of the sound 'history' is being quelled daily!
Nice to get it refreshed.
Dude, you cant bust my balls from another thread! That's just wrong.
Flip it on him. Point out that he misspelled "pictures".
Hi. Bring this up again as I have a question to American Classic Bias Look Radial in size 760-R15.
The Coker homepage states overall diameter 29.80", Summit and Speedway state 28.87".
Does anyone know the actual diameter?
In case Summit & Speedway are right, this would be good replacement for 710-15 Firestone bias...
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