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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Barn Hunter, Apr 20, 2024.

  1. Barn Hunter
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    These are available. Can you help ID and are they possibly worth getting? The guy was a round track racer. Thanks in advance. rears.jpg
     
  2. ronzmtrwrx
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    Look like Frankland to me. Others more knowledgable will chime in I'm sure.
     
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  3. Franklands maybe Winters. Winters did the casting for Franland and got hung on a run of Flankland Q.C.s and rather than losing all that money Winters finished them up and went into the Quick Change business. The one in the background has a Super Cover, which the hot rod guys think are worth huge money but are not highly sought after.
    The only reason to run a Super Cover is with a rear end pump and cooler.

    They are both set up for Grand Grand National hubs. 5"x5" bolt pattern which means it is set up for a 31 spline spool if out of a dirt possibly a locker if they were under an asphalt car and double spline axles.
     
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  4. Paulz
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    IMG_20200927_172358720.jpg Looks like Franklands to me. I have one in my truck. Bought two of them for $200.
     
  5. One thing to keep in mind is there were lots of them were produced over the years, and now the modern oval trackers are running the much lighter Bulldog or Winters Bulldog copy quick change with a 10" ring.

    The old "heavy" quick change is a very limited market. Here in the Northeast it is really the vintage oval trackers racer who want them.
     
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  6. gimpyshotrods
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    Yes, get both.

    GN hubs can be had in 5-on-4-3/4", and stepped studs can get you from 5/8" to 1/2". Doing that gets you into WAY more wheel choices.
     
  7. Yes, Grand National hubs are now available in 5"x 3/4" however they are expensive and that only gets you part way there you still need rotors, calipers, and will need to build or buy all the all of the bracketry to make them work.

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    Summit has a kit for $650.99 but you still don't have the calipers or brackets

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    If you can get them for a good price by all means pick them up, but I bet I saw between 15 to 20 full size quick change rears for sale at the Lebanon Valley oval track swapmeet in November some complete some missing hubs I also saw a few at the Malta Speedway swapmeet last spring. I don't think I saw one sell.

    If you run in oval track circles (no pun intended) they are not that rare.
    In fact I have two (missing ring and pinons) in pieces I bought real cheep, my plan is to piece them together by swapmeet hunting.
     
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  8. gimpyshotrods
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    GM sized rotors for that hat pattern, Cadillac Eldorado calipers, and generic brackets.
     
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  9. Buying a complete old 10 spline Quick Change is like buying a pig at a poke the steel axle tubes have been obsolete for almost 35 years or more!

    Where have they been all this time?

    If they have been outside how much water has gotten into them?

    Where the removed because the were because they were obsolete or because of a broke a pinon or a jackshaft?

    For that matter are you sure the axle tubes and spindles straight?

    These weren't just toys or decorations that people put under there street cars to putter down to the local cruise night like they seem to have become to some.

    They were and still are to many of us as racecar parts, and many of them saw very hard lives!



     

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