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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ben Chirco, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. Ben Chirco
    Joined: Oct 21, 2019
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    Ben Chirco

    I just purchased a 1930 Model A. I am trying to identify all components of the car for future reference. I have no info from the previous owner on many components.

    It has a steering column that I need help determining what it is. It has tilt and cruise. The cruise does not work. And I dont care about the cruise. I do want to do want to know what the column is.

    Any help would be great.


    steer1.JPG steer1.JPG steer2.JPG steer3.JPG steer4.JPG steer5.JPG steer5.JPG steer4.JPG steer3.JPG steer2.JPG steer1.JPG
     
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  2. Model A Vette
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    Gm probably around 1976.
     
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  3. squirrel
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    I'd guess 69-76ish. GM for sure, If we could see the whole thing, then it might be easier to ID.
     
  4. 41fred207
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    Yes, a couple more pics should do! Lol
     
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  5. its 70's GM style column with that cruise switch
     
  6. BJR
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    Is there a shift indicator on the top? May be an AMC column, Mostly a GM column with a few changes.
     
  7. Here is the one out of my 76 Buick century

    20191021_170634.jpg

    late 60's style had a crescent moon style connector, I do believe about 73 GM went to the flat style connector like yours..
     
  8. Kind of odd to see the cruise on the tilt lever though......

    Normally on the turn signal lever
     
  9. BJR
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    AMC had the button for the electric overdrive on the end of the turn signal lever.
     
  10. squirrel
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    That cruise switch is NOT factory, it's a Perfect Circle add on unit.
     
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  11. blue 49
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    1st year of column ignition switch ('69?) didn't have the lane change feature on the turn signal switch. Might help to date it.
    Gary
     
  12. junkyardjeff
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    I would say late 70s.
     
  13. 31Apickup
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    It is pre 1978
     
  14. Ben Chirco
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    I will try to get better pictures today in the sunlight. Thanks guys. I appreciate the help.
     
  15. Ben Chirco
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    Here are a few more picts of the column steer7.JPG steer6.JPG . I cant find any identification letters or words
     
  16. Ben Chirco
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    here is a pict of the bottom of the column steer8.JPG
     
  17. choptop40
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    To be exact you have to know the length..and splined or double D ...
     
  18. BJR
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    I think it's an AMC floor shift column from a Gremlin, Hornet, or Javelin. Basically a GM column, AMC sourced from GM.
     
  19. squirrel
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    Why not from a GM car? It looks like the floor shift interlock lever at the bottom was cut off.

    Also, is it important what exactly it's from? If so, why?
     
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  20. saltflats
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    The long shift/interlock collar makes me think Corvette.
     
  21. DOCTOR SATAN
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    Purple wire, must be gm...
     
  22. Ben Chirco
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    Thanks for the help.

    I need to find out because i need to order some parts for the horn and for the tilt wheel mechanism.
     
  23. gene-koning
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    Isn't the key upside down for a GM switch? It the lock position, the cut edge will be on top, by the way I'm looking at the picture. Mopar or AMC would be my thought, but the parts you need to order would probably be GM anyway, and that would likely be the only source you will be able to get those parts. Gene
     
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  24. Budget36
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    I vote see the column, change it out for something more suited to a Model A. ;)
     
  25. 427 sleeper
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    Nope, the key is right, teeth down. I vote mid 70's GM.
     
  26. David Gersic
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    It’s a GM column. Measure the distance between the prongs of the wiring harness connector bracket. That’ll tell you whether it’s older or newer.



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  27. goldmountain
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    GM column from 1969 to 1978 due to the lack of column dimmer switch. What does it matter what it is from? All these columns use the same parts. Only difference being the length, bottom splines, shifter or not, and key lockout mechanism. AMC, IHC, and Chrysler use the same parts in their tilt columns of this era.

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  28. Ben Chirco
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    Ben Chirco

    Thanks again for the help.

    I did not know that "AMC, IHC, and Chrysler use the same parts in their tilt columns of this era".

    Also, i am attaching a picture of what i think David Gersic meant by "Measure the distance between the prongs of the wiring harness connector bracket" . These pictures with the tape measure on them are taken of the column harness. Maybe that can help. Thanks again.

    harness2.JPG harness1.JPG
     
  29. squirrel
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    The bracket is the metal part that's spot welded to the column, that that plastic connector fits into. But measuring the width of the plastic connector tells you the same thing, eh?

    Assume the column is from a 1973 Camaro, and buy your parts.
     
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  30. Ben Chirco
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    Thanks so much for helping out. Really you guys are great. Here is a picture of the car. I am sure you have not heard the last from me.

    side picture of car.jpg
     
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