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History Mystery Grille HELP! Trying to identify

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lockwoodkustoms, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. lockwoodkustoms
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    I have been after this piece from my friend ever since he got it. He doesn't know what it came from but remembers getting it years ago with his friend at a swap meet. The thing measures 18 inches across the bottom edge and 25 inches tall in the center. It is all cast heavy Aluminum shell with a "M" in the center. The radiator is brass and has a tag on in from the Livingston Radiator Corp. New York, N.Y. any help is greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I am planning on using this for a future Race of Gentlemen build :)

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  2. lockwoodkustoms
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    Thanks Scotty I looked through Marmon vehichles and found nothing
     
  3. Morris ? Morgan ? Maxwell ? Be cool if it was a Monroe ..... Louis Chevrolet Indianapolis Speedway history ....somebody may have a bigger picture. Where's Rootie Kazoootie at when you need him ? One of the board track racer historical guys .....
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    Who knows ? Good luck ! That's a sweet piece.
     

  4. That is a fantastic radiator/shell- what will you be build be like?

    My guess would be late teens to mid 20's-era aftermarket (with that nickel plating) or one of the orphans that didn't make it past the stock market crash.

    Oh, and if you decide not to use it... my last name is McKay- would be a perfect fit for my speedster :D
     
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  6. Jet96
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    Monarch or Murray? I can't remember what their emblems looked like...
     
  7. Jet96
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    That's a very cool shell !
     
  8. Squablow
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    Moller is the closest one I can find, the shape kinda looks right, unfortunately most internet searches for Moller automobiles will bring you to that scammer guy who keeps trying to sell investors on his flying car.

    http://www.american-automobiles.com/Moller.html
     
  9. Apparently there were plenty of aftermarket radiators available back then. I found ads for several different companies.
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  10. lockwoodkustoms
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    Thanks everyone I am still looking
     
  11. fargoguy
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    Mercer? Or a miller race car?
     
  12. Squablow
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    [​IMG]

    It looks so similar to the Whippet, I was wondering if the emblem wasn't a W upside down. But it's not. A mystery for sure.
     
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  13. Try contacting the nethercutt collection in California. They are deep into rare and one of a kind of stuff.
     
  14. Also try the AACA and MTFCA sites
     
  15. WDobos
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    Moon ?????????
     
  16. xpletiv
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    from chiburbs

    And straighten that neck. ;)
     
  17. Mudslinger
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    Getting dam close to a Franklin.
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    [​IMG]

    A French Majola perhaps? This is bugging the absolute shit out of me.
     
  20. My first thought was Whippet too, then I saw the logo and now I am clueless, well more clueless than before. ;)
     
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  21. tfeverfred
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    Whatever it is, it's cool enough to build a Speedster around it.
     
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  22. lockwoodkustoms
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    The "M" logo
     
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  23. Barn Find
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    Franklin was air-cooled. No radiator.
     
  24. Mudslinger
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  25. lockwoodkustoms
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    This grille and radiator is small I am wondering if it could be a board track car or some small race car?
     
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  26. Yeah! And tuck in that shirt, soldier! :mad:
     
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  27. lockwoodkustoms
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    Anyone else out there that may know ?
     
  28. lockwoodkustoms
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    Bump if anyone knows
     
  29. millersgarage
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    I'd bet it's worth some $
    very beautiful piece.
     

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