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Projects Mystery frame- what is it?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by hotBUICKrod, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. hotBUICKrod
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  2. hotBUICKrod
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    102” wheelbase, front springs 26.5” apart, rear springs 36.5” apart, king pins 52” C-C....


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  3. irishsteve
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    My guess 29-30 Essex.
     
  4. BamaMav
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    Don't know what it came from, but looks like it was used as a self steering trailer.
     
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  5. Lil'Alb
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    Doesn't look like Essex to me (no rear kick up and frame horns look wrong), and looks early 20s. Problem is, there were a couple hundred marks in business at that time.
     
  6. rusty valley
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    brand X. there were over 2000 auto makers before the depression. looks like a nice frame though, better build a speedster
     
  7. Fortunateson
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    Can I be the first to say it's probably a Dodge?
     
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  8. thirtytwo
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    Hay wagon
     
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  11. Bullit68
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    Conestoga
     
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  12. hotBUICKrod
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    I'm gonna say not buick. The one and only buick from that era I've seen used quarter elliptical rear
     
  14. Phil1934
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    all the cars of that era had kick ups over rear axle. I think it is truck chassis as these were flat.
     
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  15. Left side engine mount has extra brackets, maybe for a steeringbox. Also brake drums are almost enclosed in some sort of dust cover. Might be a clue for someone else. Sure is an old one.
     
  16. Deuces
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    Henway.....
     
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  17. I agree on it possibly being a truck frame. Those rear curved down frame horns are curious. With all of those leaves in the springs, that is fairly heavy duty.
     
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  18. plym_46
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    What is the lug bolt measurement? Is one side left hand thread fastenners?
     
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  19. goldmountain
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    Just cut it up and make it something special.
     
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  20. plym_46
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    102 inch wheelbase matches up to 1905,6,7,8 Buick runabout, and similar year light Cadillacs.
     
  21. Looks like someone yanked it out of the brush by the rear frame cross braces.
     
  22. hotBUICKrod
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    Do the spring packs look extra heavy? They are pretty stiff....


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  23. hillbilly4008
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    This is a buick near me. Not sure what year, but i would speculate mid to late 20s
    20200102_154014.jpeg 20200102_154002.jpeg
     
  24. studebakerjoe
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    1925 Star? 102 inch wheelbase look close at front brakes and at whats visible of rear frame especially the shackles. dscn1470.jpg dscn1470.jpg
     
  25. badshifter
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    It's a 1925 Durant/Star the front hubs have been replaced/updated as the originals had wood spoked wheels
    IMG_2710.JPG
     
  26. Desmodromic
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    20200126_003104.jpg
    Suggested project, above.

    Attached are a couple of pics of a late teens Buick frame that I have. Note that as shown, it is upside down. The cleanest picture is the back end. In the other picture, the front of the frame is pretty hard to spot, but you can see the very front end in the upper left corner, where the eye of the leaf spring would attach. I'm not implying the poster's frame is a Buick, but I think this style is typical of the teens, i.e., not stepped on either end, but the very ends droop down to where the outer ends of the springs attach.

    20200125_231011.jpg 20200125_230935.jpg

    I'd suggest the poster's rails be used to build an early "big car" racer. Narrow the frame, modify the rears to have kick ups, and get an old Chevy front axle with 18" wire wheels, mount the front springs outside of the frame, get a small Toyota or Nissan truck rear (same PCD as the Chevy, but will need spacers to eliminate wheel-to-drum clearance).
     
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