HRP, I'll never know how you continue to feed the HAMB with these brilliant philosophical ideas, then you find time to work on cars & share them... but I'm liking all this shoebox brainstorming. To add to today's HRP thought: Maybe this thread is changing from "HRPrimer" to 'Hot Rod Philosopher '. I'm saving the Wizzard quote into my favorite Hamb quotes : "All that's left now is to add the side trim I have had waiting on the side line. She tells me that every time I wash her up. It's like a Woman getting all dressed up and not adding her Lip Stick. Totally Weird, I know." The Wizzard Thanks . . .