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Projects My 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook Build

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Mopar Tony, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Mopar Tony
    Joined: Jun 11, 2019
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    Mopar Tony

    Hi am new to the board but love all the info that is on this site. I will be building this 1952 Plymouth that I picked up into a led sled if all goes as plan. It is the white car on the right, the one on the left is a 53 plymouth that is for sale. I do not have a lot of money so this will be a slow developing project but it will get done. First goal is to get the engine/trans swapped and upgrade brakes and steering. I have a 360 magnum that I built for another project that I plan on dropping in it. I also have a 331 hemi that I will eventually some day drop in but that will be another time as I do not have the money to build that engine at this time. I look forward to any tips and help with this build as I go. I found a kit to mount this engine in already which looks to be a good solid set up. https://butchscoolstuff.com/42-52-p...hrysler-engine-transmission-mount-kit-2188cp/ . Again I would love anyone who has done this already to chime in and give some advice. I have done plenty of motor swaps but never in a car of this vintage. If you have pictures of small blocks in your engine bay please tell me what you did and maybe a pic of how it fit next to the steering shaft and over all. Also and exterior pic is always good. I would like to keep this car era correct if possible. And I know some guys love the straight 6 but I already have a bone stock 48 Plymouth Special Deluxe with a straight 6 and want to hot rod this one. I also put up a couple pics of what I'd like mine to end up like. Thanks for checking it out and thanks for any info provided. Plymouth.jpg Chopeed.png 6dybty.jpg
     
  2. Mopar Tony
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    Mopar Tony

    Been gathering parts lately for the motor swap. I just brought home a 5 speed trans to put behind the 360 magnum. Can't wait to start the swap.
     
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  3. Jacksmith
    Joined: Sep 24, 2009
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    Hi Tony... Ya know, that body style & vintage isn't the most popular out there, but they can be made to look verry cool, if done right. Those examples you posted are proof of that. There's a couple threads on the H.A.M.B. showing some real beauties!
    I have a '51 Cambridge that my uncle restored. I've gone a different route than what you plan... but that's all good! The swap you are planning is so very do-able and with that kit it should be relatively easy to pull off. The engine compartment in this car is a little short, so that will be a little tricky. Installing the engine with the trans attached, if the core support is in place would be hard to do. (My flat 6 barely fit coming out) Consider pulling the front body clip off for ease of doing your swap?

    Good luck and I'm looking forward to future posts!
     
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  5. Gotgas
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    Neat car! I don't know the first thing about pre-'55 Mopars, or how to stuff an LA small block in one. But I do know Barris built a really cool one, and a couple of HAMBrs have built them. The knowledge is here, if you look. Here's someone working to clone Ed Sloan's 'Pioneering Plymouth.'

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...lymouth-a-barris-kustom-1953-plymouth.515739/

    And in that thread, a note on how to lower one quick, cheap, and easy...

    They can sure look great. Keep us posted, and good luck!

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  6. Mopar Tony
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    Mopar Tony

    My plan is to pull the front clip for sure when doing the swap. I figure this would make it easier to weld mounts in and work on steering as needed. I figure this would also make it easier when running all new break lines and mounting my master cylinder to the fire wall.
     
  7. Mopar Tony
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    Mopar Tony

    Thank you for that. I know there are posts on these cars on this site but I seem to have a hard time searching this site to find the info I need. Any time I try and search something using the search bar I don't have very much luck.
    Thanks for this, I am going to look Tuesday and see how easy that is to move that plate. That would make it better than chopping the front springs I would think.
     
  8. scrap metal 48
    Joined: Sep 6, 2009
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    It already has a nice custom grille bar in it.. Just take off the front bumper guards....
     
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  9. Mopar Tony
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    Mopar Tony

    I agree with that. I don't want to changed too much where you can't tell that it is a Plymouth.
     
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  10. gene-koning
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    For the most part, most of the people you will meet will ask you what year your car is, and the next question will be what make/model of car is it. Most will have no idea because most have probably never seen or heard of a 52 Plymouth Cranbrook. You should get used to telling them what make and model it is, as soon as the ask you what year it is. Then, expect them to tell you about a friend, relative, or someone else they knew that had one "just like it, except..." followed by a whole bunch of stuff not even close to being related to your car. Smile and talk with them, its part of the fun having an old car. Gene
     
  11. Mopar Tony
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    Mopar Tony

    Oh I am sadly used to it. My last two old cars were a 1966 dodge coronet that everyone thought was a early Chevelle and a 74 Dart Swinger that everyone thought was a early Nova. The stupidity hurts...
     
  12. gene-koning
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    Tony, I've been a Mopar guy since the early 70s. It is amazing how few people can grasp there were (and still are) many makes of cars.

    Unfortunately if you look back through history, about every 10 year cycle, the cars all grew to look like one another until someone made something very different, then in another 10 years or so, they all looked about the same again. You see the same thing with modern cars, they all look the same to me.

    I've come to the conclusion that as long as my car brings up some happy memory of a car or something car related from their past, its all good. Sometimes the stories they tell are really fun, but they won't tell their story if you respond badly to their attempt to connect to a car "just like your's, except...." I got into this hobby because it was fun. Sharing stories can be great fun too. Gene
     
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  13. Early Ironman
    Joined: Feb 1, 2016
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    Definitely following this thread. My first car was a 51 Plymouth Cranbrook. That I bought for $25.00 from my dad when I was 8yo. Never got beyond unbolting a bunch of stuff on it though. Hey, I was just a kid with a car and some tools


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  14. Francos47
    Joined: Jun 26, 2019
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    Francos47

    Good luck with your project Tony. I’ve always had to a soft for the early ‘50s Plymouth’s and Dodge. My best friend’s folks had a 49 Dodge when we were 15 and we took it for joy rides when they weren’t home.


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  15. Mopar Tony
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    Mopar Tony

    Well I am back and forth on what I want to do now. I got the car to run with the old flat six and I don't think it'd take much to make it drivable as is but I don't really want to keep the flat 6 in it. Everyone says to modify the 6 and it'll make more power but I honestly don't think I'd be happy with the power for the money I'd have invested. However if I fixed the brakes and tuned it up I could be driving it shortly LOL. I just hate to invest money in stock parts when I feel that they would still be some what inadequate and unsafe. I want to be able to put my family in this car and drive across the country.
     
  16. Jacksmith
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    Tony,
    If you decide to keep it, your flat 6 will be as safe & reliable as you make it. Mine is capable of going anywhere, anytime. It's no race car by any stretch, but it pulls up the mountains roads just fine. It'll cruise on the highway with & past traffic.
    I had the cam re-ground & tappets re-surfaced, Edgy aluminum head, H.E.I. distributor, Offy twin carb manifold, Langly cast iron header with dual exhaust sporting twin porter steel packs. A T-5 makes a Highway Star out of it.
    I didn't do it all at once, but one piece at a time made it do-able over time. At one point I was going to swap in a later engine, etc., but stuck to the flatty... and I'm glad now that I did!
     

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  17. 'Mo
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    This I like!
    How about a peek at that flattie?

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Jacksmith
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    Here's one just like mine, but you can see it better since the front body clip is off. Also, I have a heater on my car so it's hard to see the details. Full on Flatty.jpg Full House Flatty.jpg
     
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  20. mcnally351
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    Cool car. You could definitely find some finned valve covers and air cleaner cover to keep the look on that late small block. Five speed will be fun in that car. Is it a nv 3500 from a truck?
     
  21. Mopar Tony
    Joined: Jun 11, 2019
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    Mopar Tony

    No sir it is a AX15 from a dodge Dakota hooked to a 360 magnum.
     
  22. Mopar Tony
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    Mopar Tony

    First I wanted to say I love your car. That thing is sweet! Second I would like to keep the flatty but money is a huge factor for me as well. To hot rod the flat 6 I will have to invest a ton of money. I already own the 360 and AX15 trans. I am back and forth right now but I can drop this small block in for around 500 dollars at this point and the head I found for the flat 6 cost that.
     
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  23. 73RR
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    If a v8 is your desire then go for it. It will not be the easiest swap but it will be an eye candy deal if done right.
    There are a couple of threads on this subject: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/lookey-what-i-got-for-a-project-hyfire-poly.360864/ and
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/dodge-la-5-speed-transmission-options.486239/ and alot more if you dig around.
    Yes, spending money on the stock parts could net a cool project but, if you then make the swap the money is gone and you start over. I'd suggest starting with a front disc brake swap (www.rustyhope.com) and an Explorer rear axle. At least that work will be part of either engine.
     
  24. Mopar Tony
    Joined: Jun 11, 2019
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    Mopar Tony

    My first swap this winter will be the rear axle to a 8 3/4 from a 67 Coronet and I was looking at making my own bracket and using ford explorer calipers that I saw in a thread on HAMB. As far as what is easier I don't think the V8 swap will be too bad. Also I honestly think it is more affordable than hot rodding the flat 6 as there are more parts for the modern motor and trans. thing that makes me second guess using the AX15 is it looks like I may have to split trans tunnel.
     
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