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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 4Nines, Apr 23, 2012.

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  1. 4Nines
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    ^You certainly made that look easy! Thanks for sharing your setup.
     
  2. kscarguy
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    Your alignment offset for you is not as much for you because you still have the doghouse and the column is offset and not aligned with the center of the gauges.



    I've always like the '87 Dakota front end for the early Ford COE. I measured one and it was a really good choice as it had a good track width, front steer rack, 11" brakes, 4.5" BP. The drawback is the entire frame can't be used as it gets wide in the back.

    HOWEVER...Check out this kit for the Dakota suspension.

    http://www.industrialchassisinc.com/?product=1402
     
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  3. i use a chevy 03 3500 chassis with the steeringbox in its stock location
    and wiyh a shorty column, not saying its better than your setup but worked out well too :)

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  4. xtremek
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    The No Limit front end is designed for rack and pinion steering and you would have to adapt a different rack to it. With that many horsies going to the rear, were you going to use a Ford 9 inch or maybe a built Dana 60?
     
  5. What do you guys think of moving the G20 van box back inside the frame rail to better line up with the steering column? Maybe attached to a cross member between the front frame rails for a more rigid mount? I would be mounting the engine behind the cab so the engine cover wouldn't be an issue. Other than remaking the drag link, do you see any issues that I'm missing?

    4Nines, one more question, did you sand blast your cab, sand it or chemically strip it? Beautiful work on the chop too, it sure looks nice.

    My COE project has been on hold for almost 4 years since I moved to Arizona and built a new place down here. I'm almost done with that and hope to bring the cab down on my next trip, I already have a lowered Chevy crew cab dually chassis here to replace the one its sitting on in the picture.


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  6. kscarguy
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    I don't think cutting off, twisting, and re-welding the end of the center link is safe. I also don't like that the pitman arm is not rotating in the same plane as the idler arm. The Idler is not meant to twist in two axis.
     

  7. Why is your welded centerlink okay but unsafe for someone else?

    Did you ever see the astro van steering? Pitman arm and idler arm rotate in opposite directions.
     
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  8. jeffrob
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    now that Cody Wall's wagon is just about finished I will have a new thread to read that is interesting!

    THIS COE IS BAD ASS ! keep the updates coming !!!!!
     
  9. kscarguy
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    65 - I want to thank you. I researched the astro van setup. Note the two idler arms that keep the center link parallel and the drag link from the pitman arm to the center link. I duplicated this on my setup...I need to look at dimensions from the astro center link to see if it can be used with the Chevy truck. If it can, then wow what a good find. I've been searching for center links with the extra factory hole. Even if the taper is wrong, that can be changed easy enough. So thanks for the help.

    I now return this thread to the rightful owner who hopefully might be able to use the Astro Van suspension.


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  10. xtremek
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    I don't have an issue with cutting a steering link, if some one competent is doing the work, but I was given the theory that if the pitman and idler didn't operate in perfect concert, it would affect the steering when turning over going over bumps. Going over a bump would cause the passenger tire to act differently than driver's side.
     
  11. 4Nines
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    Lots of good steering info coming out! Hopefully this can help me and future COE builders :)

    I will be do a super beefy rear diff that will be built to handle at least 2,500 hp.

    I had the cab media blasted locally and had them primer it right after they were done. I still have a bunch of body work to do, but it's at a good stage where I can start figuring out the chassis.
     
  12. I don't think you quite understood what I meant by Mickey Thompson's set-up. Here are a couple of pictures of his layout. With 2 differentials, each would only have to take half the punishment. No crossbox required, saves you that much overall length! (and cost)
     

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  13. How about mounting your engines backwards, put your cross box up under the cab, with a drive shaft going back between the engines. Cross box would have to reverse the engine rotation to the drive shaft.
     
  14. 4Nines
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    I'm looking into the dual differential setup, but with the differential parts I will need it might even be more expensive than a crossbox.

    That's also a possibility, but I have a line on a crossbox already and a custom made one would be out of my budget at this point. I really don't think this setup is going to be that long. I like your outside the box thinking and I will just have to see if I need to change up my strategy as I get into fabricating it all up.
     
  15. 4Nines
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    Is the the stock radiator worth saving or is it too far gone? Not sure if anyone rebuilds these, but I would like to save it for another hot rod project if possible.

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  17. xtremek
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    Somebody needs to hand me the mop, I'm drooling here.:D
     
  18. Jim Egan
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    Welcome fellow COE'er. I too am new in terms of posting to this site; I like your project, mine is a 48 Dodge COE on a Dodge RV frame 440/727 combination. I'm just getting started really, been trying to work out some wheel/frame issues which I think I now have on track. Good luck, Jim
     
  19. Jim, the cool guys hang out here.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?groupid=333
    Come join us.
     
  20. 4Nines
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    Right on! Anxious to see your build.

    For sure! I'm hoping one of the mods can move this thread over there for me :)
     
  21. 4Nines
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    Does anyone know a source for fenders for the Ford COEs? My fronts OK, but it would be nice to have a new/straight set if someone reproduces them?
     
  22. kscarguy
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  23. 4Nines
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    Hmmm I wanted to stay with the metal fenders if possible. Thanks for the link though!
     
  24. kscarguy
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    There has a been a NOS fender that shows up on eBay every once in a while...for only $900.
     
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  26. The Krakken
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    PART_1462894534468_KIMG0006.jpg PART_1462894542578_KIMG0009.jpg Looks like this thread may have gone stagnate...I just stumbled on it and JUST started my own 47 Ford COE. Would love to see an update 4Nines. I'm also an Austin boy and would love to see where you're at with this beast. I'll bring the Tito's.
     

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  28. The Krakken
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    Thanks JoyFlea.
     
  29. Gojeep
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    Do you have a link to this social site please?
     
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