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My 110welding?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mink, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. RAG66
    Joined: Jun 1, 2008
    Posts: 160


    As I have said before on the subject of welding anything clean & tight, fitment that is. I have 7 years in everything from TIG to MIG to aluminum& stainless I have tried most of the combos and machines and will say get more education & ask lots of dumb questions. Try welding some heavy scrap and find out were your machine does the best. Also if you had to you could help out the penetration of your weld by pre heating your work piece not to hot though no color just nice and warm maybe 400-500 F good luck. burn it man!
  2. Robert gilbert
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 927

    Robert gilbert
    from boston

    yes with a real mechine not the thing he has with no gas . And im saying when making tacks not welding
  3. adamabomb76
    Joined: Aug 5, 2007
    Posts: 281

    from York, Pa

    I won't throw rocks over this stuff, cause there are probably endless ways to do it including hot riviting plates on either side of the metal.

    With my limited welding experience in the home shop, and armed w/your pic of a panel repair you did, all I can say is find a stick welder if you are gonna do it yourself. Mind you, I don't wield a mig much better than what you got in the pics, but if you welded your chassie like that and the car breaks in half taking an exit ramp killing someones wife or kids....You desirve what ever you get. I'm just sayin' it's worth taking some serious time, if it's the frame. That is an area you do not learn on.
  4. RAG66
    Joined: Jun 1, 2008
    Posts: 160


    Good night batman, I only have 7 f------ years of time in the trades and I know that has got to be the most un safe looking pile os I've ever seen! I would never get in that car without a helmet.
  5. RAG66
    Joined: Jun 1, 2008
    Posts: 160


    MINK take al up on his offer to help if I were there in CT I'd give you a hand if you need help go to the older guys and really see how they do it. These guys on the hamb are ruthless aren't they!:eek:
  6. kid berzerker
    Joined: May 13, 2006
    Posts: 110

    kid berzerker

    who thinks rampage is gonna beat the shit out of forrest?

    close the thread.
  7. Habman
    Joined: Jun 8, 2008
    Posts: 43

    from Fenton, MI

    I agree with Hackerbill!

    Welding is something almost anyone can learn, my 15 year old daughter can lay down a decent bead on plaqte.

    It just takes some reading and a lot of practice.

    As for flux core being crap or no good for welding panels, or not suitable for this or that. Flux core is totally useable for just about anything, if it is used correctly.

    I don't use it often and prefer a gas shield, but if your in a windy environment that would blow your shielding gas away it works great, given the correct welding techniques are used.

    As for flux core for welding panels, it can be done. You need to stich weld 1/2-1 inch at a time to control heat buildup. And it is not something you do well first time you try it.

    For small patches I'll sometimes go as far a TIG welding them, which is time consuming, but the best method for not having to spend a lot of time cleaning and straightening things up later.

    I'm no expert welder but I have been welding for over 30 years now, had a welding class in 10th grade and since then have practiced, and learned other systems and techniques.

    If it is something your trusting with your life or the life of others, you better be good at it, or let someone else do it for you.
  8. Nads
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
    Posts: 11,827

    from Hypocrisy

    What about pants?
  9. Pants are optional.
  10. Al Napier
    Joined: Feb 6, 2007
    Posts: 400

    Al Napier
    from Central CT

    Well fellow HAMBers, I am happy to report there is hope for Ryan (Mink) afterall ;-)

    Spent about an hour and a half over his house tonight, gave him a few pointers, brought a welded sample with me so he knows what to strive for and in a short time his welding technique (and understand of same) had improved about 500%.

    He has some equipment issues to deal with, needs to practice and I steered him to a welding class available locally for some professional instruction on quality machines but I think he's on track to make his little chebby roadworthy.

    I told him no more pictures until he has his stuff up to snuff and has practiced practiced practiced practiced practiced (and taken that class) though, LOL.

    He was a good listener and seemed genuinely willing to learn. Definitely has the passion for traditional rods too.

    Good luck Ryan! You have my number if you get stuck, have questions or need a hand.....

    Al in CT

    PS. That gasless 110v mig welder was interesting, I've never used one before.
  11. Hackerbilt
    Joined: Aug 13, 2001
    Posts: 6,253


    Thats excellent to hear Al!
    Your a good guy to go out of your way like that...
    Kick some welder ass MINK! You can do it!!!
  12. brucer
    Joined: Jun 5, 2008
    Posts: 332

    from western ky

    yep definetly the right thing for mink to do and a generous offer from AL.. hats off to Al and to Mink..

    and Good Luck Mink, you'll get it, if you have the determination as Al stated you'll be slinging good beads in no time..
  13. VNCduke
    Joined: Nov 22, 2007
    Posts: 659

    from Washougal

    If your still using flux core id suggest switching it up, i think you will find it easier to just use gas.
  14. Dreddybear
    Joined: Mar 31, 2007
    Posts: 6,044


    Very cool thing you did Al.
  15. HasonJinkle
    Joined: Mar 29, 2007
    Posts: 154


    I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on that.

    Using a gas rig, especially a really really good gas rig, will not help you weld any better. To the contrary- if you are just starting out you can gain a false sense of confidence because a good gas rig will make bad welds look good to an untrained eye and if you don't know what you're looking for, a cold weld will seem just fine- until you put a load on it and the bead falls off. The best way to start out is with Oxy-Acet then graduate upwards from there. While fluxcore is uglier it will show deficiencies more readily as well.

    Oh yeah, after some digging I did find this way in the back of the NHRA rule book-
    "Any chassis modification in an attempt to lengthen the frame rails forward of the vehicle firewall shall be constructed of recycled bed framing materials, and be bonded by means of tractor weld." "Fabricator will sign his name in weld bead on chassis prior to accepting any form of payment for services rendered"

    Heh... Sorry, just couldn't help myself with that last one. Good on ya Al for taking the time to go over and help the guy out, glad to hear you did some good.

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