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History MotoMeter Gauge & Equip. Co. (National Gauge & Equip. Co)

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Speed~On, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. I believe the first application was 1933 Willys-Knight for this panel with Moto Meter gauges. The panel is perfectly design matched with the dashboard. Willys 1933.jpg Willys Knight 1933.JPG
    It was introduced later in the Chris Craft 1935 speedboats. Maybe CC purchased surplus stock from Willys as last year for production of the Knight models was 1933.

    Don Ferrara used a Willys-Knight dashboard in his '29 model A roadster Don Ferrara dash 1929 roadster.JPG
     
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  2. egads
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    Ran across this today, nos , anybody need it? DSC00122.JPG
     
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  3. And dressed up with a MM tach, temp gauge and a SW gas gauge it's even better... Willys Knight mod.JPG
     
  4. fleetside66
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    Beautiful panel & gauge collection! Is the speedo an A/C by any chance? I think you're right on with the history. The panel was made by Stewart-Warner for the Willys, but those crazy boat people couldn't keep their hands off of it. It's good they bought so many of them, because there are still some floating around for the hotrodders.

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  5. V8RPU
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    from Nor Cal

    IMG_7795.JPG IMG_7784.JPG IMG_7791.JPG three "boat" panels with various hot rod gauges
     
  6. e1956v
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    I have some of the parts books from just after the Electric Auto-Lite company bought Moro Meter. IMG_0387.JPG IMG_0388.JPG IMG_0389.JPG


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  7. @fleetside66 You had a moto meter speedo for sale in the classifieds. I missed seeing it in time, but I am looking for a speedo just like that. How rare, or common, are those?
     

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  8. Speed~On
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    @37hotrod That speedo fleetside66 has is from the mid 1930's I believe. I think Plymouth or Chrysler. Greg would know for sure. Also, HAMBer e1956v may have one as he owns a great speedometer shop.

    Here is my collection of 1935 Dodge floating power speedometers, which are very similar to the speedo you have pictured above. A few years ago e1956v rebuilt another one of these that I own. I have installed that one in my Model A. Once he completed the restoration of my speedo he told me if I ever see another one to buy it as these are becoming difficult to find. He was right, I was once able to find a few of these a year.....now I rarely find them.
    I am glad I purchased these when I did so I have parts and speedo's for future dash panels.

    If you find one that needs work, I would HIGHLY recommend HAMBer @e1956v The work he does is incredible!!

    There is one of these for sale on Ebay right now. The owner is asking a lot of money. For that price, it better have a very recent rebuilt and restoration.
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  9. The speedo is a Delco Appliance, Rochester NY (formerly North East Electric Co). This is the housing: 1933 Willys Knight speedo.jpg

    Here are some other 2-3/8", 2-5/8" and 3-1/2" Moto Meter gauges:
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  10. Speed~On
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    @BlueNotes Your gauges are very nice! Wow, thank you for sharing your collection!!
     
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  11. I forgot how nice those Dodge speedos look...and I even used to have a ‘37 Plymouth coupe! I don’t know if I have enough room for one of those in the dash of the RPU, they are pretty big. But that is the look I’m going for. Need something that won’t look out of place with the gauges I have already gathered. Specifically trying to match the hash marks around the outside, and the crescent/coffin pointers.

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  12. Here’s a picture of mine, but it does not match my back mounted Stewart Warner’s. Does anyone have a back mounted Stewart Warner to trade? D76F906F-643A-43F7-A7E2-14E236EC9742.jpeg C5FEC8F8-28EA-4AF2-81D5-D01B77BF4E01.jpeg
     
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  13. Forgot to mention, most of the gauges are Niehoff, and the tach is Stewart Warner. The fuel gauge was a close match, since Niehoff didn’t make fuel gauges. It is a MotoMeter gauge, military surplus out of a tank!

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  14. A bit off-topic but here are some nice 2-5/8" back mount gauges from a Packard. Can't tell for sure but I believe they were made by Delco/North East, not SW or MM. Anybody else that can verify what brand they are? The temp gauge needs a calibration and a new capillary tube..... Packard gauges.jpg
     
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  15. Canuck
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    Question for the collectors here, Trying to determine a fair value of a gauge I have (cleaning up in my old age), by fair I mean that a buyer is happy with the deal and so am I. Gauge work smoothly, returns to 0 and registers the same as another high quality pressure gauge (well as accurate as a made in China gauge can be). Have looked on that auction site and all I see are gauges that require quite a bit of loving. If I take it to a swap meet here, if they ever have one again, I know the offers will be very lo.

    Gauge is shown in Post # 29 above.

    Any help guys.
     
  16. egads
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    1928-1929 Peerless cluster with MM & E gauges DSC00123.JPG
     
  17. fleetside66
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    Just to give you an idea of how well these MMG&E gauges were made, this one I just ran across still works!

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  18. Speed~On
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    Greg's example from above is a true testament to the quality of the Motometer gauge line. That oil pressure gauge was made in the 1930's; after 90 years of service (and getting pretty thrashed) it conitues to work to this day. Amazing!!!! I would surmise there are few (if any) gauges made today that could take that type of abuse and continue to function for 90 straight years.



    Here is a project I've been working on. I bought this panel from a fellow hamber and installed a few of my Motometer gauges. And yes...the oil pressure gauge in my panel is what the gauge from above looked like at one point in its life. You gotta love these old Chris Craft panels!

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  19. Outstanding !! :rolleyes: there is nothing more awesome looking than this style of gauges from Motometer and SW....SpeedOn do you do all the resto work yourself ?
     
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  20. Speed~On
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    Thank you @kadillackid I agree. This combination of Motometer MMG&e gauges mounted in this early Chris Craft panel looks pretty amazing.

    I did indeed do some light restoration to this gauge panel. I looked pretty nice when I initially purchased it from a fellow hamber. The engine turning was probably original as it was quite faded. I simply polished the panel and rubbed out the engine turning as best I could.

    Then I engined turned the panel. It was the first time engine turned something that had a radius as pronounced as this, so I really took my time. I think it turned out well as it looks pretty good.

    Hamber @fleetside66 has always had an interest in vintage panels. His knowledge and collection is quite impressive. After buying this panel from @AldridgeDW I can see why these guys enjoy and appreciate these panels so much. They are so cool and look amazing. Im so happy I had the opportunity to buy this one.
     
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  21. Speed~On
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    This is the MMG&E oil pressure gauge from HAMBer @fleetside66 that is pictured above in Post 47. This gauge was made in the 1930's. These photo's actually make the gauge look a little nicer than it is in reality. As Fleetside66 stated, this is a true testament to the incredible quality of these gauges. As you can see, this gauge still works great and would look fabulous in a patina old skool build or on the beach at TROG.

    It's faded, it's rusty, its the polar opposite of perfect and I think its great. I know many of you may think it's ugly or wouldn't want this piece. As for me.... I really like it....a lot! At 3 3/8" in size it certainly grabs your attention.

    I can't thank Fleetside66 enough for this gauge, I am more than happy to give this masterpiece a home.

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    Here is what this gauge once looked like...
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  22. Another great gauge to a good home :rolleyes:...
     
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