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mopar .528 solid cam, tell me about them!!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by fiveohnick2932, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. fiveohnick2932
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    Im thinking about getting the MP .528 cam for my 440 build (new motor for my pickup). What do you think??? Im going for that early 60's factory solid lifter muscle car sound.

    about 9.5 compression
    bowl ported 452 heads
    headers
    1.5 comp RR
    Performer RPM intake
    750 holley dp
    4 speed
    3.23 gears
    28" tire
     
  2. 73RR
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    4 speed and 3.23 ?? Better start with at least a 3.55. As for the cam, with only a lift number there is no way to know if it will work with the relatively stock package.
    A few guys here are running RB packages but you'll find more hand-holding at http://www.moparts.com/


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  3. sickboy713
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    i like to run the 292 509 hyd. cam from mp. first one was in an early '70's 440 out of a hiway patrol car. basicly rebuilt the engine and add the cam and torqer type intake. i ran an automatic with a b&m shift kit and the same 3.23 gears. it was in a 69 charger. car ran hard. my latest is in a '69 440. little more comp. runs great. cam has a nasty lope at idle. i love it. the solid lifters are more work, should be good as long as you don't have power brakes. have fun
     
  4. fiveohnick2932
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    Its a fairly common cam in the mopar world and most know it by its lift, much like the "509" and "484" cams.

    Dur @ .050 is 241 and the LSA is 112, lift is .528 with .028 lash
     

  5. fiveohnick2932
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    So are you running the 509 cam in your latest 440??
     
  6. the 509 is a very good cam for the 440, has a nice lumpy idle and responds well in a relatively stock motor. the 528 i was not that impressed with, sounded mean but did not really run that great. if your comp was more around 11:1 it might run ok, i like a tighter base, more around 108.
     
  7. 47Hudson
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    We run Hughes cams and have had great results and service. Dad runs a Hughes hyd in his 440 pump gas with ported/cut 452 heads, steel crank, KB Hyper. pistons. etc. not sure of the cam specs but the car runs low 11.s in the 1/4 in a 3500lb car. I run a Hughes solid in the 47 but with a lot more motor she runs 9.90s in the Georgia heat! Give them a call with your setup/goals and you can't go wrong. IMHO Joe
     
  8. BadgeZ28
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    You will be sacrificing a ton of low end performance and as noted, the tire size and gear ratio is only ideal for freeway driving.
     
  9. mrrich
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    Word. Hughes cams rule. Dave Hughes more often than not answers the phone himself. Tell him the weight, gears, tire size etc. I had a 509 cam that I replaced with a cam of his recommendation. 2 tenths off. I have bought cams from them for Mopar big blocks and hemis ever since. Seriously cool roller cams too.
     
  10. fiveohnick2932
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    I actually have a Hughes cam on my shelf that I got when I was wanting to change the cam in my 383 that is currently in my truck. Due to working on other projects I have not installed it yet. The 383 runs great but its getting tired and I have a good 440 that just needs a rebuild and all the 4 speed stuff for a complete package.

    Currently I have a comp magnum 270 cam (224 @ .050 .470 lift, 110 LSA) (chevy cookie cutter cam) in it now and its pretty good with the 2.75 gears and 727 auto. Its really fast and is great on the highway, I love the performance of it but I wish it has more of a rhythm to its idle rather than its loud pulsing tone.

    Anyway the Hughes cam I have is the 1928BL cam.

    219/228 @ .050 .489/.524 lift and 111 LSA, RPM range is 1400-5100

    I thought it was going to be the perfect cam for my 383 but since I have not used it yet it might be a great cam for my 440? That 2832BL cam sounds awfull tasty though. I have many different gear ratios on the shelf at home so I can change that depending on the cam.
     
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  12. Wedge426
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    it is a good cam,i ran in 99' in my 68 440 satellite with 2.14/1.81 ported heads M1 single plane intake 750AFB, comp near 10.5 open 1 7/8" headers 11"conv. and 3.23 gears 12.2s and it was stock car with steel wheels etc.it is is very streetable if you have compression,if you have a 500cube you like to go with 296/557 MP cam done that too with weiand tunnel and two 660 holleys,it idled about 900rpm and torque peak at 3800rpm...577hp at 5400rpm.if you want that old hot rod feeling forget those hydraulics and go with solid cam more power in the middle power band and topend and DEF! oldschool they are old Racerbrown profiles and are still the good ticket to go!
     
  13. gregsrt
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  14. sickboy713
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    yep
     
  15. das858
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    I've run the .509, the .528, .557, and the.590 M.P. cams in bracket racing, and I felt that the .528 had the best low speed driveability. I think it will be a great street cam, my only complaint with it in a drag car was that it nosed over at 5000-5500 rpm.
     
  16. fiveohnick2932
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    I got the new book "How to Build Max-performance Mopar Big Blocks" and the author brings up the .528 cam a few times in it. At one point he says its one of the best performance cams to use with cast iron manifolds. He mentions he has done 11's with a 451 and the .528 cam using the HP manifolds.
     
  17. Most MOPAR muscle cars didn't have solid lifters. 426s and a few 413s (pre muscle car). I don't recall a mechanical lifer cam being an option in the 440 or the 383. Perhaps in some sort of a super high output mill.

    I have run the 248 duration .509 lift and the 241 duration .484 lift hydraulic cams on the street and both are pretty lumpy. But both do well as a street strip cam and will do well with the lower compression motors.

    I don't suppose that helps any.
     
  18. fiveohnick2932
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    What do yall think about this combo? I bumped the comp to 10.6 with closed chamber heads. Anyone have the intake closing point @ .050 for the Mp .528 cam, with that I can figure out the dynamic compression.

    10.6 compression
    ported 915 heads
    headers
    1.5 roller rockers
    Performer RPM intake
    750 holley dp
    4 speed
     
  19. Arominus
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    The 915 heads with the higher compression will be pretty sensitive to octane in the heat of the summer. At least that was my experience up here in colorado, and that was with the 484 cam in a 413. :\ Even on super unleaded it would run on, had to run a booster or some race gas mixed in.
     
  20. A BONED
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    I've run a few MP cams in both MoPar BB & SB and currently I have an MP 484 hydraulic stick in my 383. I love it, it has a choppy idle and pulls very nicely. My 64 Polara coupe has gone 13.40 so far, it's not blisteringly quick, but it's not too bad for a mild mill in a car I can drive anywhere. Hughes Engines make some great camshafts as well.
     

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