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Moon gas pedal and throttle linkage..need pics of yours!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Leadsled51, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Leadsled51
    Joined: Dec 21, 2001
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    I am putting a vintage Moon gas pedal in my gasser Falcon. Is there linkage you can get for it? What did you use? Show me some pics....I am trying to stick with the 60's vintage vibe to keep it looking as period correct as possible. Would like to see shots of what you used on the firewall as well as what you connected it to the carb with. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Leadsled51
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    anybody? Just give me something to look at....some ideas that have the 60's look
     
  3. Here's what I did...... Can you bolt yours to the stock pedal and use the stock linkage?..

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  4. Shane Spencer
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    looks killer kev. what did you use for the rotating point on the arm ? like how is it put together ? im buildin my first truck and wanna make a cleaner throttle setup. all i have for reference is a shit looking cable setup from like an 80's camaro
     

  5. 327-365hp
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    That's nice Kev, but he asked for a Moon pedal, jeez! :D
     
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  6. I'm trying here, OK? The pivot point is a bearing from some kind of aircraft bell crank.
     
  7. metlmunchr
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    Pretty sure Moon made hydraulic throttle setups in the 60's. They're about as clean and trouble free as anything you'd ever come up with for throttle linkage.
     
  8. Leadsled51
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    That is exactly what I was looking for!!! I know Mr. Gasket sells something similar to what Kev is showing. I might do something like that. BTW, Kev....all my original linkage is long gone. Was replaced by that junky looking 80's GM cable, and pedal.
     
  9. CutawayAl
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    Rather than looking for a kit it possible to just buy whatever components and materials your install needs.

    A proper installation using a GOOD cable isn't traditional, but it really isn't a bad option.

    Or as metlmunchr pointed out, hydraulic eliminates all but a few linkage components.
     
  10. Leadsled51
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    Can't say I've ever seen a hydraulic linkage....I'll have to see if I can find one.
     
  11. ??????? I'd like to see one of those!
     
  12. Terry O
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    This may give you an idea for fabrication.
    This is some NOS Ansen linkage and pedal, late 50's early 60's vintage. The linkage package included the pillow blocks, the rod and the bellcranks.

    Terry




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  13. Muttley
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  14. Holy shit, that is some Spy Vs. Spy throttle linkage shit right there! Expert craftsmanship!
     
  15. Hey Mutt, send me one of those hydraulic throttles. $49.95 is in the mail!
     
  16. Muttley
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    If you print the picture out and fold it in half you get a treasure map to Stu Hilborn's Streamliner.

    I'll get right on that. :rolleyes: ;)
     
  17. jimmy1931
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    Hope the pics post & are clear.
     

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  18. Leadsled51
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    Wow, a lot of good ideas! Jimmy, I never thought about using that tab on the side....nice work!
     
  19. 340HilbornDuster
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    It's not a mOOn but...same idea.

    Some Aluminum pieces, E-bay BB-BellCrank and a Bicycle Chain.
    I'll Make a nicer wire lock later.
     

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  20. Inland empire hot rods
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    marked for reference, thanks again HAMBers
     
  21. Novaron
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    Here's mine. 3/8 rod, drilled and tapped to 1/4-28. QA1 hiem joints, Speedway bellcrank, Lokar cable.
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  22. dreracecar
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    Most racing groups wont allow HYD throttle linkages (not your case, but just info) because you can pull back on the peddle if for some reason the throttle sticks, Other than that they have a slow feed, mushy feel to them and need a bunch of return spring. Almost have to mock the thing up first and assemble in a bucket of fluid to be positive of no air in the system.
     
  23. Mr48chev
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    I don't remember ever seeing one of the hydraulic linkage setups shown in a car in any magazine article or pointed out in race coverage. I used to see that add all the time though.
    I've got a no name pedal hanging in my garage waiting for the right rig to put it in.
     
  24. tommy
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    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m79/kiwikevinp/Gas Pedals/scan0009.jpg

    Notice the 2 different pivot locations. The pedal on the right is hinged at the bottom like most all street gas pedals. The one on the left is hinged higher up so that the heel can be used to close the butterflies if a throttle spring should break. A safety requirement for many racing bodies. Drive 10 miles with your heel off of the floorboard and you will not like it. If you plan on driving it much, make sure you try it out for comfort before you do a lot of fabricating. All moon pedals are not alike.
     
  25. dreracecar
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    Drag car magazines from the 60's usually used on Hilborn uprites , easy to install
     
  26. alanp561
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    Gonna have to use some of all these ideas to make the Studebaker go. Gonna have to find a pedal first!
     
  27. Bump, since I'm at the point, my gas pedal location is about a foot n half left of carb throttle arm location (blue tape under dash).

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  28. lostone
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    I'm getting to this point myself, and like you @swade41 I have a big offset like that.

    After serious searching, looking, google'ing and racking my brain, especially with a tunnel ram I'm considering seriously going to cable.

    With a 440 I don't know or sure how much torque twist may be induced into the frame during hard acceleration and possible throttle bind. This shouldn't be a problem with a cable.

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  29. I'm good with cable myself, I slipped some 1/4-20 in there to see where it lands on the firewall and the pedal will be way over by the steering column.
    When I measured throttle throw at the linkage I need 2 1/2 inches of travel, I was looking at these floor mounts where the cable runs under the floor but Speedway's version says 2 inches of travel and the Lokar doesn't give a measurement.

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