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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by colesy, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. Islandworker
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    :cool:From the Moroso's.
     

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  2. Ed Wright
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    Didn't the Carroll Brothers run a fuel car? You might be thinking of Carroll Caudle doing that. '55 2 door hardtop Modified Production. He pulled a valve stem out of a tube. That is when he went tubelss. The first guy I remember doing that. Found another MPH when he did it. Those old Firestone 7" wrinkle-walls leaked like a sieve tubeless. My Jr stocker liked them tubeless also, tried that after Carroll found his was faster that way. They would go flat in about 8 to 12 hours. They found Carroll in a tree, one shoe missing and never did find his glasses. A customer loaned him a pair of shoes and bought Carroll and Gwenda plane tickets home. Jim Hayter got his car back home. Really tore it up. My wife and I drove down to Amarillo to help him move the drive train over to another car for a Div 4 points race two weeks later. Think he won that one.
     
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  3. 64 a/fx
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    Can't remember if Carrolls 55 has been posted or not. 70 pages is a lot to go back over, but anyway here's shot of Carroll Caudle's 55. pretty near impossible to beat back in the 60's in and around Amarillo. believe me we tried with our 55 but no luck. still don't believe anyone can shift a 4 speed like Carroll.

    Alan

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  4. P426
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    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/T6THODRnF20&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/T6THODRnF20&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

    If interested in a Full length DVD of this 1981 Connecticut Dragway NHRA Points meet, which includes Stock and Superstocks (imagine, no GT cars or 3rd Generation Camaro's!) Modified with Alky FC and Dragster (one with a SOHC Ford Cammer motor!) and some Super Gas email me at nhra1427@hotmail.com

    Pete

    P.S. Not my video...just reposting what guy had written on YouTube for those interested.
     
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  5. Compulsion
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    This is a great thread. I could well have missed it but, does anyone recall the series on building an M/P in either Car Craft or Popular Hot Rodding?
     
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  6. P426
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    Without looking through my back issues, I recall that Popular Hot Rodding's long-running "Project X" 1957 Chevy project car was eventually built for Modified Eliminator at one stage.

    Car Craft had Rick Voegelin's "30 day wonder" C/SM 1968 Camaro and "Clockwork Chevy" 1957 Chevy which was originally built for AHRA Formula racing (I forget which /HR class), then later updated to NHRA M/P specs.

    Hot Rod magazine's John Dianna's E/MP Duster was their featured M/P project car.

    Super Stock and Drag Illustrated had a C/MP AMC Hornet build-up as well as Arlen Fadely's Super Modified Maverick project car.

    That's all I can think of at the moment. Did I miss any?

    Ah, those were the daze (as a young lad) growing up reading those car mags starting in the fifth grade in the fall of 1969; I couldn't wait for next month's issues to arrive at the newstand! The cars, the colors, the names, the ads and articles were "outasite."

    What a cool era!

    Pete
     
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  7. colesy
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    Ralph Ridgeway continued.........
     

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  8. colesy
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    Ralph Ridgeway continued...........
     

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  9. colesy
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    Ralph Ridgeway continued............
     

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  10. colesy
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    Ralph Ridgeway from the November 1968 Car Craft by Bob Swaim.
     

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  11. colesy
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    Car Craft/Ralph Ridgeway continued...........
     

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  12. trifivebowtie
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    I was wondering if anyone remembers another C/MP 1955 Chevy that competed against Ralph Ridgeway at the 1967 Indy Nationals. It looks to have been sea mist green, and had red painted steel rims. and two small side by side hood scoops. This car is pictured in the backround on page 168 of the book Gasser Wars by Larry Davis. I have reason to believe this may be my car,and might be from the Phoenix AZ area.
     
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  13. P426
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    Mick,

    Hello! Welcome to H.A.M.B.! Modified Eliminator was my favorite eliminator back then. High rpm, gear-banging, never a dull moment racing, featuring a plethora of body styles, cool names, and paint schemes!

    As far as the Money Hungry Camaro goes, Bob Rice may be able to help you as he was from that area (Virginia) originally. Send him a Private Message. You can find him on this thread:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4971058&highlight=bob+rice#post4971058

    Regards,

    Pete
     
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  14. Larry T
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    Mick,
    Nice looking car, but most of the 302 Camaros that I remember ran in D or E/MP. A/MP was the stomping grounds for the 427 cars.
    Larry T
     
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  15. Bucksnort
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    Here I am at Napierville in 1973 driving Ol Bucksnort.G/MP 287" banging the Super T-10 at 9500 rpm.What a blast.Got to the semis at their big $ meet.Got protested but since I didn't win it was dropped.


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  16. Larry T
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    Mick,
    That's definately a big block and not a 302 in there. The tilt frontend and the single 4 bbl. kind of make wonder if they ran NHRA or with someone else (AHRA maybe).
    Neat car.
    Larry T
     
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  17. Dino the weirdo
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    colesy....You sure are on target with that massive Magazine collection...About "Doc" Burgess..... We Probably haveTOO much info on The Black Arrow At www.doverdragstrip.com. I Talked to him recently at his N.C. 'hidaway', He told me HE always owned the Car and Grump got the glory. As far as partnership with Carl Spiedel, He promised to 'kick-in' but never did. Car went through 7 ( that we know of) -Lettering Changes. S/S, M/P, then match altered wheel base race trim .We have recently obtained lost photos from Carl's son that have been hidden since the 60's. I'll dig some out and post.The car was eventually bought by Bill Smrtic and turned into a 'Storm King" Car ...I'll post that too. Whole historys are lenthy but good reading at Dover Site :
    http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1073&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=Black+Arrow
     

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  18. 1934coupe
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    These pictures seemed to disappear. So here it is again
     

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  19. CONNMAN
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    >>>>,Street Eliminator,,1969,, Polar
    Dragway ,,Anchorage ,Alaska ,,my '55 D/Gasser injected 301,vs a '65 Dodge Coronet A/MP ,with a dual quad 426 Wedge ,,
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  20. P426
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    That fiberglass front end would've placed the car in one of the Gas classes, most likely E/G. Modified Production cars had to use factory sheet metal. The only time fiberglass was allowed was if the car came that way from the factory, e.g., 1969 440+6 Road Runners and Six Pack Superbees.

    Pete
     
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  21. CONNMAN
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    >>>>>not only no fiberglass ,they had to run a stock frame & suspension ,,full safety glass,,both bumpers,,stock engine location ,and a motor to the mfg of the car ,,and more,,,lotsa rules in Modified Production ,,
     
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  22. Larry T
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    It might fit in Formula 2 /HR in AHRA. I really don't know for sure, I'm not really up on old AHRA rules, even though they were a lot of tracks around here that ran AHRA back in the 60's.
    Larry T
     
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  23. Islandworker
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    :cool:Which has to make you wonder about Dick Landy's 69 Dart which, from what I have read and seen, was his 68 SS/B car with a 69 grille, tailights, etc. As picky as NHRA can be, makes you wonder how it could be classified as an A/MP with all of the 68 lightweight stuff (hood, windows, seats, etc.) When he ran it MP also had to have the back seat unless it came without one, ala the business coupes, or the 68 Cuda/Dart. Maybe he but a steel hood on it and stock 69 sets but I haven't found anything that points to that. Straighten me out if anyone wishes.
     
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  24. 1934coupe
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    Now this picture is worth a million bucks. Thanks Connman for posting it, the mtns. cars everything. It must have been just one of those days .

    Pat
     
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  25. 65deluxe
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    Anybody have modified production rules from 1965 that they can post?
     
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  26. ssffnomad
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    "BuckSnort"
    Here I am at Napierville in 1973 driving Ol Bucksnort.G/MP 287" banging the Super T-10 at 9500 rpm.What a blast.Got to the semis at their big $ meet.Got protested but since I didn't win it was dropped

    B.S. You have never done anything Illegal in your Life !
     
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  27. ......ditto....great picture!
     
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  28. CONNMAN
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    >>>>.1934coupe; Thanks ,,,i was up there from '63 to fall of '69 ,,,with a couple hundred thousand Military stationed up there during the Cold War ,,we had a bunch of fast cars & hot rods ,,plus ,,Anchorage weather was better than Iowa where i was from & moved back too ,,
    the '69 Red Biscaine in the right lane had a L-88 427/ M-22 ,,no back seat ,,radio delete ,,it ran in A/FX ,,
    Polar Dragway opened in '64 ,,was sold in the '80's and now has a new name ,,go to www.Alaskaracewaypark.com to see the action there now ,it's a IHRA track now ,,a lot of the old guys i raced with are still there racin' ,
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  29. CONNMAN
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    >>>>>,Someting a little different up in Alaska back then ,,,that AMX started out as a Factory Super Stocker ,,but later became a Mod Production car ,,that Rambler in the background was a Stocker ,,but it too went to Mod Production ,,Seems we just couldn't leave em alone ,,had to go faster eh >???
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  30. mickthefish67
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    Interesting that even though it does'nt have a sheet metal front and bumpers ,All safety glass date coded drum brakes originally and when it race circa 70's in the ProStock class UK still on Leaf springs but inset.
     
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