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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Beau, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. Beau
    Joined: Jul 2, 2009
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    This started out as a 28/29. But I ended up changing it up using 30/31 parts to make a dry lakes modified style car with a mix of hot rod and custom. I'm trying to gather as many parts locally and from local suppliers. Keeping online purchases to a minimum and putting cash in local peoples pockets.

    This is my research and build thread. I sold my old truck and started to build a Model A, knowing NOTHING about the Ford Model A (or any Ford for that matter).



    Here are some threads full of modified info
    Pic Thread
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32889

    Dimensions-
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=612792&highlight=model hood

    Drawings/Dimensions-
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438877&highlight=model drawing



    Trying to keep this build under $3000 Already over this amount 4/17/12

    So far I have gathered all of this in the past week (I have about $1500 left to spend)
    Items have been added as I go.

    - '28-'31 Model A frame
    - Model A complete front suspension and steering
    - '48-'52 11" Ford F1 complete front axle (for the brakes and spindles)
    - Model T buggy spring
    - Olds 215 engine/trans/drivshaft/4 barrel intake
    - 1930 Model A Cowl, hood, doors and radiator shell
    - Model T window frame
    - Ford Bronco 9" Rear axle
    - New F brake wheel cylinders, hardware, pads and kingpins
    - 1919-1922 Fordson Model F Gas Tank
    - 1940 Ford truck rims and 16x6.5 Lemans Bias Ply tires
    - Drop axle from the infamous Titus
    - Model T touring rear body section.
    - 35/36 rear radius rods
    - Ford F1 cross member
    - '40 Ford Wishbone
    - Model A wishbone
    - Speedway steering arms
    - Radius Rods mounts from Pinewood
    - F1 brakes, spindles and hubs
    - F&R shackles
    - F1 motor mounts
    - F1 trans mount
    - 2 wishbone mounts
    - Upper steering arm
    - 30-31 lower cowl patch panels
    - Rear U-bolts
    - 30/31 headlights
    - Model A wishbone
    - Camaro V-6 T-5
    - Brake springs
    - F-1 shock mounts
    - 35/36 aftermarket tube shock mounts
    - F-1 pedal pads
    - Reverse eye front spring
    - 16" ribbed and smooth trim rings
    - 30/31 Hood
    - Heater-
    - Steel for motor mounts
    - Steering wheel
    - Front Spring perhces
    - Tie Bar, hood lathes, lower shock mounts
    - F1 spindle busing, pair
    - F1 brake hoses, master cylinder, hubs
    - 35/36 Ford Dash
    - 23-25 Moel T Turtle deck
    - 28-31 Model A headlight
    - Ford Hubcap
    - T5 S10 tailhousing
    - New front wheel bearings and seals.
    - New front drums from the rear of a Ford ;) Budget F1 drum replacement NAPA part number 440-1455
    - 40 Ford V8 hub caps
    - Superbell steering arm
    - V8 Hubcaps
    - Cork for seals
    - 2nd set of F1 brakes
    - two 40 Ford wheels
    - '32 Ford Radiator Shell
    _ '32 Ford Grill insert
    - tubing and flat steel
    - 35/36 Ford Driveshaft for headers
    - 36 Ford Dashboard Waterfall
    - S-10 9 1/8" Clutch kit
    - '36 Ford waterfall, gauges and ash tray
    - 27 Ford Stanchions
    - 28/29 headlight bar

    - Offy vlave covers
    - Offy 4 barrel intake
    - 65/66 Mustang radiator
    - BLC 682-J headlights




    - 2" upsweep in front
    - 9" Kick up in back
    - 2" channel
    - 2.5" stretched hood
    - 16x0 tires in front, 16x5 in back.
    - reverse eye super low front spring with 3 leaves removed
    - 39 Ford front spring de arched and springs added
    -Napa 7738 upper radiator hose.

    I have a Ford 9" with 3.50 Gears. '85 Camaro T-5 with 3.50 1st, .78 5th. 30" tall tires. I'm guessing around 150hp, 2500 pounds.
     
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  2. F&J
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
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    Should be cool with the 215. I once wanted to put one in mine. That was 07 or so, and I think Edelbrock was still making a 2x2 intake for one of the 215's. I guess I should have grabbed one then.
     
  3. nickk
    Joined: Feb 2, 2011
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    that car above is sweeeeeet!
     
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  4. Bilt
    Joined: Jun 23, 2011
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    That will be a fun little car and build!!! I like the little T in the picture that you posted. Any idea who owns that car? BTW Blue One here on the HAMB is building a neat little 26 T RPU which you would probably enjoy following along with. Its similar to that which you want to build.
     
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  5. TinShed
    Joined: Mar 3, 2011
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    What size tires you looking for?

    I know a guy with tons of A stuff I will see if he will part with any.
     
  6. yule16met
    Joined: Dec 30, 2007
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    I am pretty close to you, I have some small headlights I would sell. I am leaving for Alabama for 2 years this friday so hit me up soon!

    I love the car above, but... I would stretch the wheelbase out a little though. It all depends on how you want it to handle. Shorter the quicker it will respond, but if everything isnt real tight then it could be a handfull at speed. The longer you make it the straighter and calmer the steering will be. I stretched mine out because of the engine and power I wanted.
     
  7. Beau
    Joined: Jul 2, 2009
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    Tule- I was thinking of about 110" on the wheelbase. Not to long, not too short. I'm not a fan of the quarter leaves or the extended front end. PM me some pics of those lights if you can. Thanks

    Tinshed, I PM'd you.

    Bilt- I found the picture on here. The builder is on here. I can't find the damn thread though.
     
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  8. Beau
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  9. I'm interested in seeing some pictures of the modifications done to the lower body behind the seat.

    I want to make the lower subrail covers removable so that I can switch the car between modified and standard raodster with the turtledeck.
     
  10. Beau
    Joined: Jul 2, 2009
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    Spent 4 hours tonight getting the sieze drums/pads off the front axle of the F1. What a pain! The kingpins were stuck also! Yuck

    I ordered new shoes, hardware, wheel cylinders and kingpins from Twin Cities Rod and Custom.

    Now the hard part of sorting through the BS to find out how the swap is done...

    Here are some links I found to swap the 1948-1952 48-52 Ford F1 brakes/spindles to a Model A axle-

    http://www.flatheadv8.org/f1brakes1.htm

    http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2010/07/01/hmn_tips1.html

    http://www.droppedaxles.com/TECH_ARTICLES.html

    http://www.flatheadv8.org/f1brakes1.htm

    http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/0711sr_drum_brake_installation/index.html

    http://www.hotrodhotline.com/md/html/f100_brakes_for_early_fords.php
     
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  11. Beau
    Joined: Jul 2, 2009
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    Slight change of plans. I stopped by my friends place today to see what I could get from him. I ended up leaving with a 1930 Model A cowl, two doors and a front seat panel from a touring car. I have enough sheetmetal to build a tub now.

    I was also lucky enough to source a 1920's Fordson Tractor gas tank for the project. That will be here next week.

    I spent a couple hours cutting and playing.

    I have a terrible camera...but I don't take photos too often.

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    Long ways to go...
     
  12. Beau
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    Had another fairly good week of parts collecting.

    I picked up a hood, radiator shell, hood supports and the gas tank I never thought I would find.

    I will be picking up a Model T Touring back end and 16" Ford wheels with Lemans bias ply tires.

    Here is the 1919-1922 Fordson Model F gas tank. It has a fairly large dent in the bottom and the baffle is loose inside, but I have not seen to many around.

    Fordson
    Ford Motor Company
    Detroit, Mi USA

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    Until next time.
     
  13. Beau
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    Today I used an air to push the huge dent out of the bottom of the tank. I didn't realize I had "blown up" the tank so much. The dent ended up buckling the sides of the tank a bit. I'm going to have to split it anyway. I was just a bit bumber out. I should have braced the outside of the tank a bit better.

    Here are a couple of shots of the body just setting on the frame. Once I get the Model T back end I think I will have a better looking tub to start with. Maybe a smaller version of a Phaeton.

    Doors or no doors?

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    Picking up wheels and tires tomorrow.
     
  14. Beau
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    Another good day of collecting.

    I scored 4 new Lemans 16x6.5 bias ply tires on '40 Ford rims, a drop axle from Titus and a rear Model T touring body section from Hot rod Steve.

    I just need the F1 brakes and it's go time.
     
  15. What year cab back are you using for your project I need to find this piece so that I can continue on this project.

    Thanks
    Frenchy
     
  16. 32coupedeville
    Joined: Dec 10, 2006
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    from cincy

    this car is killer
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  17. I am building a track T similar to the one shown here. I am now in need of the cab back on these samples show here if anyone can help me let me know

    Frenchy
     
  18. Beau
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    Frenchy, I would appreciate if you edited your posts so you don't quote all of my pictures. Also, please don't use my thread for your wanted posts. (With over 500 posts you should know how to do that).

    The back is from an unknown touring car front seat panel. If you read, you would know I'm also not going to use it. I'm using a Model T back section. I'm giving it back to my friend since I don't plan on using it. He might be willing to sell it.

    Thanks.
     
  19. Doodlrodz
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    Beau, I had to make a back for my '32 modified and also had a Fordson tank that I decided not to use but I did find another use for one end of it.
     

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  20. striper
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    I used a Fordson tank with a more colonial flavour

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  21. Beau
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    Striper, I saw your thread and that's why I started hunting for a tank!!! You inspired me and I look at your build daily. They say there were 400,000 tanks made in the US and they are still plentiful, but I have hunted and feel lucky to find one.

    Doodlerodz- Your builds are resposible for me selling my truck and building a Model A. A few years back I stumbled upon a Doodlebug on a local farm and was instantly in love (I think I even have a post on here). You had posted pictures of your builds and I was hooked. Fast forward until about a month back and I found photos of what I was told is a "Modified". A bit more practical than a Doodlebug, with more Hot Rod style. When I saw your builds and the modifeds, I wanted something in between.

    This post- http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35758
     
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  22. Frenchy32
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    from arizona

    Beau

    Sorry for putting you on the spot with my reply .

    Frenchy
     
  23. ryanscustom
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    from Jax, FL

  24. Beau
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    No worries, it just clutters up the thread a bit. Just edit the quotes and remove the pictures. Thanks for stoppin.
     
  25. Doodlrodz
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    Beau, Here's a pic. of my latest Doodlrod, that's what I call 'em. This one I guess is really a modified although it started out as a doodlebug I just found too much good stuff for it and had to make it a modified. I hope to get it outside this weekend and get some good pics. of it because I bought some Coker dirt trackers for it and want to see how it's going to look with them on it. Keep up the good work.
     

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  26. Beau
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    Love it! That's the way I'm headed.
     
  27. Beau
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    This what the rough idea on what I want the frame to look like.

    The famous "Bob Bleed Sweep" up front, and a similar design for the rear.

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    After sweep (hard to tell)

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  28. I likr the subtleness of that rear sweep not as harsh as a hard z
     
  29. Beau
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    I learned how to use my phone today and took some photos. Still crappy as usual. But you get the idea.

    Part 1 of the front sweep-

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  30. 60 ford
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    Going to be a cool ride, I really like a bobbed roadster.
     

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