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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 48fordnut, May 16, 2017.

  1. I have too many projects, but want to try to get this together. I have a stock model a frame that will get a z in the back next week.

    I originally wanted to do a v/8 but when I found an original good running 55 chevy eng.I thought this would be a chance to put something together a teen ager would do in the mid to late 50s.

    I have the top loader trans, f1 cross member, f1 pedals, 40 drums , backing plates, and the spindles. I also have a hurst m/m cradle for the ft. I have one of the 4 '' dropped axles like summit is selling.

    Now for the work to start.1st I have to learn how to transfer pics from my note 3 to here. That's the biggest job.

    Thanks for any input.
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  2. Is the '55 engine a six? Will you squeeze it in by lengthening the frame? Or recessing the firewall?
    Got a trans adapter?
  3. It's an original 55 v/8 with the oil filter mounted on the intake. I plan to mount that on the firewall.
  4. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 13,276


    To a restorer, that engine might be worth enough to fund building the rest of the car, with another engine, if it is not messed up.
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  5. Some one put a mild cam in it ,but I saw the car it came out of with mileage in the 60s, comp in the 120s ,o/p around 35.I have the original carb and starter.
    I have a trans adapter.
  6. The frame is at the welders .He is going to make a 4'' z and weld in the upper shock mt per the B/T book,Bible. Now to get busy building the trans and putting the dropped axle together.
    I don't know how to post pics,can some one give me a link.
  7. cactus1
    Joined: Apr 10, 2006
    Posts: 7,853


    Below the reply box there is a button next to the "post reply" that says "upload a file." Hit that and choose a picture from wherever you keep your pictures. Then click the "post all images as full size." Then just "post reply" as normal.
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  8. cactus1
    Joined: Apr 10, 2006
    Posts: 7,853


    So whose flathead is that??
  9. How easy is that. Thanks Cactus 1. Not what I wanted to post ,but just had to.
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  10. A friends, took the pic to see how the torque tube pipes looked.
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  11. IMG_2118.jpg IMG_2122.jpg

    Hey I'm getting it. :)
    Last edited: May 19, 2017
  12. sloppy jalopies
    Joined: Jun 29, 2015
    Posts: 1,187

    sloppy jalopies

    Try a '35, '36 hollow drive shaft it tapers at both ends... one driveshaft makes a pair of headers...
    they made cool [lowd] headers when limefires were just off the drawing board...
  13. Not for me. I just wanted the picture so I could reference it later.Now to learn how to post pics from my note 3
  14. Changing out the axle for a 4'' drop, this one has the rev eye spring.
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  15. Take the time and box that frame. You'll be glad you did....
  16. sloppy jalopies
    Joined: Jun 29, 2015
    Posts: 1,187

    sloppy jalopies

    I like to set the boxing plates in about 3/8" , that leaves a lip that can be drilled from below to add whatever you need... brake lines, tranny coolant lines, wiring etc.
  17. that's a good idea. I have read of that. I'm hoping to replicate what a youngster might have done in the mid 50s. That's when I was around hot rodding.
  18. 97
    Joined: May 18, 2005
    Posts: 1,299


    So now you are a teenager/youngster..... with some experience? :D
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  19. Yikes. I guess so. Dr says I'm in good shape, but body is worn out.
  20. Have a update for all. I picked up a 59ab today. Missing a lot of parts, but has what I need.
    I will try to get this running before putting much money into it.Has a small ridge, and is ,.010/.010 on the crank and .040 on the pistons. Pretty clean and has a rebuilders tag on the bell housing .
    Have a bunch of questions. Will the bellhousing be ok on a reg eng stand? I have not hung a f/h on a eng stand.
    The 55 chevy eng will get finished up and sold. F/H was what I wanted all along.
    Frame not back from my friend yet.
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  21. cactus1
    Joined: Apr 10, 2006
    Posts: 7,853


    Most folks will tell you to hang a flathead from the side with the exhaust port bolts. There are adapters for this.

    Other folks will tell you they have had no problems hanging from the bell.
    I have one on a stand right now hung from the side on an adapter that I made.
  22. Thanks Cactus. I thought that might be the case. That bell looks awful long. I may hang it from the bell and put a support under the eng. Any junk parts you would be willing to sell?
  23. horace urrey
    Joined: Dec 4, 2009
    Posts: 69

    horace urrey

    Please Please support engine from sides the bolt hole strength is not there to risk possible un repairable damage take it from someone that had to spend a lot of time looking for parts due to just such a failure
  24. Thanks Horace.All good answers. I may use the bell bolts with a support under the eng
  25. cactus1
    Joined: Apr 10, 2006
    Posts: 7,853


    I don't have a lot of flathead stuff really. What are you looking for in particular?
  26. Just simple stuff that some one that has not built a F/H would not have .I need , a bolt on timing gear, used, , screw in oil dip stick, gasket set , and a fan and mt.,s. I'm just trying to see if it will run ok. This does not have to be a perfect eng, good oil press and minimal smoke. Would also like a very mild cam and lifters.
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2017
  27. Back to working .The frame is still away from home. He is putting together a supergas roll cage.
    Boy I have dumped a ton of money on the parts the eng was missing, and still don't have all .
    Have picked up a Weiand triple intake as well as the off set gen mt,still need the 3 longer studs for it. Now have a Pertronix crab cap dist. Found a deal on the new water pumps that have ceramic seals and bearings.
    Cleaned the pan,lots of surface there. Pretty decent shape.
    Still need a oil pump and pick up ,as well as a alumn cam gear. Hopefully some one will come up with a gasket set that is lounging on a work bench.
    Talked with some one about a reground cam, and lifters. Have the adapter for the eng stand coming.
  28. steinauge
    Joined: Feb 28, 2014
    Posts: 1,353

    from 1960

    If you have the flathead on a stand with the pan off and you are changing the cam and lifters do you think it might be a good idea to ridge ream the block and put rings and bearings in it? Or at least have a good look at the ones you have.Likely might want to lap the valves and check the springs too? Not trying to be a smart ass,I have just found it a lot easier to do what you can to make sure the engine will be ok before you put it in the car.

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