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Projects Mild custom '51 Pontiac Chieftain

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by PhilA, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. PhilA
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    Little bit of improvisation tonight.
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    The window mechanism would fall off the runner because the lower stop is missing.
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    I made a piece of metal to fit in the runner and prevent the arm going too far.

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    It's held in place by the bolt and stopped from falling off by a longer screw with a nut on.

    Now the window winds all the way down and doesn't get stuck!

    One thing off the list, I can put the door card back on now.

    Phil
     
  2. PhilA
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    That's as good as it gets.

    The glass rolls up and down remarkably well considering that pane is broken; the spring assist works nicely, it takes more effort to put the glass down than it does up, which means it should keep itself closed on the road.
    Quarterlight opens, closes and latches.
    Door latches on both positions.
    Lock works.

    First time all the functions of that door have worked since I got the car.


    Phil
     
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  3. PhilA
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    Tonight I decided to address the driver's door glass. First, a new chunk had fallen out of where it broke. Glued that back in, for what it's worth.

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    I found a spare rubber sash grip in a very rusted sash channel in the bottom of the rear passenger door. Cleaned it up and fitted it to the glass, then knocked the sash channel on. That gripped nicely.

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    Typically this is a replacement glass, it's etched 2004 and whoever cut it wasn't overly proficient in the art of cutting glass.

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    I cut a length of sheet steel with an L bend in, to fit over the section of channel where the clips are, which are what caught the glass and fractured it. Applied some polyurethane sealant to the back edge.

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    Clamped that all up and left it to set overnight.

    Phil
     
  4. tubman
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    Still following this, Phil. I am quite impressed with your attention to detail.:)
     
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  5. PhilA
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    Well, it's deteriorated into gluing corners of broken glass back together, but I'm glad you're still along for the ride!
     
  6. tubman
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    We've all done something like this at one time or another. When I was in high school, the insert in the steering wheel in my clapped out old '51 Ford was all rusted up and broken. I stole a piece on aluminum foil from my mothers kitchen, crumpled it up to give it some texture, smoothed it out, cut it to size, and put it in place of the damaged insert. It turned out to look a lot better than it sounds.:D

    Keep up the good work!

    My daughter lives in New Orleans. I usually stop to see her on my way to Florida every fall. It looks like you are only about 50 miles away. Depending on conditions, I may stop by for a ride in your '51 on my way down. Or maybe next year.:rolleyes:
     
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  7. PhilA
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    Door's always open, you're welcome to stop by and take it for a spin.
     
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  8. PhilA
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    ...and boarding the house and garage up, again.
     
  9. PhilA
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    Got the door card on, handles and window trim. The door closes with a nice clunk now.

    Today, some firsts- first time all the doors work properly, all windows operational and locks work. I just locked the car with the key, and it's now as secure as it gets.

    Not too bad.

    Phil
     
  10. PhilA
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    Vacuumed the car and cleaned up. It's edging ever closer towards "presentable". The list is getting smaller, and with this next box of goods that's on the way hopefully a fair chunk of that list can be cleared.

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    Battening down the hatches.

    Phil
     
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  11. impala4speed
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    Your car is looking great. Very nice work.
    Good luck on the storm front; hope it misses you completely.
     
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  12. PhilA
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    Thanks. Either way tomorrow's gonna be windy. Just keeping an eye on the horizon right now.
     
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  13. PhilA
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    Box of parts delayed by the weather. Maybe this weekend, if all goes well, I'll have it and can make a start on the brakes.
    Storm has stalled out and is just sitting out over the water picking up energy, which is worrying. What was meant to be a not particularly strong storm is building up into something nasty.

    Phil
     
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  14. PhilA
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    Okay, so: The List.

    Rebuild brakes
    Replace rubber fuel lines (*)
    Replace intake and exhaust manifold gaskets
    Replace heat riser gasket
    Windshield defog tube (*)
    Refit glove box (defog tube first)
    Rewire battery to trunk (*)
    Manifold stud (*)
    Crank breather tube (*)
    Air filter needs oil
    Coolant change
    Fill screen wash
    Oil change
    Rear axle oil (*)
    Grease everything again (*)


    That's everything between now and putting it on the road. There's more, but that's the prep list.

    Phil


    (*) - Item that I don't have in stock
     
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  15. PhilA
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    Fedex delivery date: "Delivery Pending".
     
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  16. PhilA
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    Got a crank breather tube with flame trap coming in the mail. Saves having to build one.
    Brakes should be here today.

    Phil
     
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    Box of brakes arrived, with 3 brake cylinders in. One on back order. Great.

    Will make a start on this through the week though.

    Phil
     
  18. How is the storm Phil?
     
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  19. PhilA
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  20. PhilA
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    In the package was a new fan belt. The old one was the correct length but not the correct width.

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    I pulled the alternator off, added the missing bolt to stop the rear mount from shifting angle and put lockwashers on the nuts- something I didn't do on the last test fitting.

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    It got a coat of paint to finish off. That's drying now. Fought the new fan belt on to the crank and water pump pulleys ready.

    Phil
     
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  21. PhilA
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    Went out the new belt on. Dunno if it got hung up but it was way too short.

    Put the old belt back on for now.

    Lost two wrenches into the abyss. They fell down, vanished but aren't on the floor.

    Phil
     
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    Easy just keep your eye on the rear view mirror when you are on your next drive. You will eventually see them bouncing down the road behind you. :)
     
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  23. PhilA
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    I plan on jacking the car up and groping about under the front crossmember, they're most likely under the oil pan.

    That's the least accessible place, so the most likely location.
     
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  24. n847
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    A couple years ago I was starting up my Plymouth for the first time in the spring & while inspecting for leaks I noticed bolt in the channel on the back side of my front cross member. upon closer inspection I found a 3/8" extension another body bolt, a couple zip ties, a 1/2" craftsman wrench & an allen wrench. Apparently all points in my engine compartment lead to that channel. I just dropped a spark plug socket last weekend that landed in the same spot.
     
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  25. PhilA
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    Been looking at Gates belt references and they have this series (truck and bus) in all manner of lengths. This one's 40", the alternator wedged hard against the water pump pulley i couldn't get the belt over, it was about halfway up.

    I'm thinking to add an extra 4" to it or so, that should allow it to pull over and also then move the alternator away to tension the belt.

    Phil
     
  26. Johnboy34
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    from Seattle,Wa

    Or put it where you want it and string a 1/4" rope around the pulleys and measure it .

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  27. PhilA
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    Had thought about that but the original thin belt fits with the alternator about halfway down the adjuster bracket. The new belt is identical in length but due to the extra width sits at a larger radius on the pulleys and doesn't fit.

    Granted, the replacement belt is specced for the original dynamo, not this setup.

    Phil
     
  28. PhilA
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    I managed 5 minutes on the car before the phone rang this afternoon.

    Achieved a positive thing, found the half inch wrench I dropped.

    Phil
     
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  29. partssaloon
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    Whoa, that is a lot of length to add on. Take a 1/2 inch wide measuring tape an go around the pulley's where you want the alt to sit. That should be the length of the belt, a belt is measured on the top length.
     
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  30. Johnboy34
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    Use a bigger rope,
    Sent from my SM-G973U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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