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Motion Pictures MG Does It Again at Bonneville in 1957

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  1. Jive-Bomber
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    MG Does It Again at Bonneville in 1957

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  2. Some things to note:
    They entered right off 80 over a small dike to the race area, which I believe is part of the Saldero Dike
    I really like the 'fire suits' of a white t shirt and slacks.
    Minimal roll cage, as mentioned.
    Thoes racers had big (formal dances)
    And later, Mickey Thompson used the same shape for one of his runs on the salt and later the body went to Jim Travis that campaigned it as The Pumpkin Seed
     
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  3. drtrcrV-8
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    Re typo41's comment(& others in the same vein) : We TODAY attribute "having big balls" to all the old racers ; no argument there, but you need to remember : they didn't know about today's modern "safety standards & gear" back then. That was just "the way it was done" & the quote : "Racing is dangerous & sometimes people die" was an accepted fact.
     
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  4. The car that Mickey used, and wound up with Travis, was originally built by Bill Burke. Bill gave it the "Pumpkin Seed" name. He used a Bill Stroppe built Ford six in it to earn his 200mph club hat.
     
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  5. NoSurf
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    Check out the Vargas print on the factory wall behind the car when Sir Moss is trying it out.

    And I like that '57 wagon tow vehicle!
     
  6. Here's a short video clip of Sir Stirling Moss in the MG EX181 streamliner @ Bonneville in 1957:

     
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  7. Stirling Moss  in the EX-181.jpg
    May 29, 1957: Stirling Moss tests out the cockpit in his custom-built MG EX181
     
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  8. Stirling Moss with the EX-181 on the Bonneville Salt Flats in 1957 (1).jpg
    Stirling Moss with the EX-181 on the Bonneville Salt Flats in 1957 (2).jpg
    August 23, 1957: Stirling Moss with his custom-built MG EX181 on the Bonneville Salt Flats
     
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    Look at cutaway drawing and where the driver's feet are placed in the very front of cockpit- About a half inch 'crumple zone' if things go wrong!
     
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    Stirling Moss with the EX-181 on the Bonneville Salt Flats in 1957 (3).jpg Thats actually American racer Phil Hill in this shot... The 'test pilot'.
     
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  11. choffman41
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    Friend of mine built a MG Bonnie car years ago. Went fast, I think eventually went 259.
    butch1.JPG
     
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  12. #84 A ~ Modified Sports @ 1989 Speed Week (by Wade Moore).jpg #84 AA ~ Modified Sports @ 1989 Speed Week (by Todd Olson).jpg
     
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  13. choffman41
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    ^^Cool, I'll add these pics to my Butch file.
     
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  14. RichFox
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    Always hard to believe there is a blown Chrysler under that hood.
     
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  15. choffman41
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    Never to be seen again.
     
  16. Blade58
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    from apopka ,Fl

    Cool story ,and with a 4 cylinder
     
  17. Big Plan Dan
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    Here's a link to another MG-sponsored assault on Bonneville from the same era....

    This movie features a round race course on the salt flats with a circumference of 10 miles, with the highly modified MG racing in circles for 12 hours.
     
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  18. wisdonm
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    The latest and current MG record holder is HAMB member Chris Conrad, aka Milwaukee Midget, in his I/GT MG Midget. milw midget 800.jpg

    We are installing a totally unheard of (on this side of the pond) engine this Saturday. If it passes it's chassis dyno test, they're Bonneville bound for 2018.
     
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  19. Jonneville
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    from NY and UK

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    Stirling told me that the fuel cocktail they used in the '57 factory streamliner was particularly lethal - when he took his foot off the gas the toxic fumes were sucked into the cockpit, making him choke and his eyes run, a bit of a problem as the canopy was screwed in place so he and Phil had to hold their breath for as long as possible when slowing down.

    I just looked up what the car ran on and it was 86% methanol laced with nitrobenzene, acetone and sulphuric ether.

    A pal and I ran a couple of ex-factory MG racecars at Bonneville in 2007 and 2008. One was EXF, a streamlined MGF, the other a wagon built by So-Cal Speed Shop. Stirling Moss was one of our consultants, which is why I was lucky to hear more about his time at Bonneville. He said he considered it his greatest achievement, more so than his famous win in the '55 Mille Miglia for Mercedes in the SLR.

    It was a real honor being helped by Stirling, along with our other consultants and friends who included Andy Green (current holder of the World Land Speed Record at 763 and change), designer Peter Stevens (former MG design chief and designer of many fabulous cars like the McLaren F1) and Anthony Reid (factory MG racer at Le Mans and other races).

    We pushed the C/Gas/Coupe record in the SoCal wagon at 226.319 back in 2008 - see the photo at the top of this post.
     
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