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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Conder, Dec 5, 2007.

  1. Conder
    Joined: Jan 16, 2005
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    Conder

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  2. Damn that's cool. Great pics.
     
  3. chaddilac
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    chaddilac
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    that tank is awesome!!!
     
  4. BadLuck
    Joined: Jan 7, 2006
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    BadLuck
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    Conder..you rock....I too, am a sucka for flake...very cool article......considering attempting the roof of my 52 soon!We'll see how that gos :(!!
     

  5. McKee
    Joined: Jul 22, 2005
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    McKee

    Nice!
     

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  6. Sam F.
    Joined: Mar 28, 2002
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    Sam F.
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    painting an enitre car and painting a gas tank is a big difference...

    kinda like the difference between painting yer ol ladys toe nails and painting a gas tank....
     
  7. Conder
    Joined: Jan 16, 2005
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    Conder

    The Cadillac in the background was done the exact same way...
     

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  8. Nicholson
    Joined: Aug 9, 2006
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    Nicholson

    "NOTE: This example, right here, illustrates the difference between the COMMERCIAL art and the FINE art approach to a custom paint job. In commercial art, the artist is paid to create something exactly as planned (by him or someone else) in a cost effective and timely manner. In fine art, an artist starts with a basic idea, then the piece evolves, changes, backs up, goes forward, etc. etc. until it's done"

    I can't get anything done in a cost effective or timely manner...maybe thats why I'm broke.
    Conder, great tech article. Your paint work is awesome!
     
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  9. Conder
    Joined: Jan 16, 2005
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    Conder

    I really appreciate the comments folks. For the record, every job I've ever done that I really dug was partially financed by me. I'm sure many of you do the same thing...Here's to ya!
     
  10. SlowandLow63
    Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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    SlowandLow63
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    from Central NJ

    Unfortunately, ya. The customer will never know how much extra time and money went in to the job than whats on the invoice, but thats what makes jobs go from good to great. Cool thread keep updating.
     
  11. SinisterCustom
    Joined: Feb 18, 2004
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    SinisterCustom
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    Outstanding Condor! That frame is wicked......
    Having a vinyl plotter, I've used masking in it to cut out designs, but never thought of using the transfer tape as a mask, afraid of bleed thru.....gotta try it now, I've got a shit load of it...haha! And sitting on the 'puter making a design takes too much time.....I prefer working "on the fly"....

    I just did a friend's bike (actually, it's still at my place, gotta polish it this weekend).....and yeah....once a job is all masked off with a design, it looks sick.
     
  12. hooligan1
    Joined: Apr 12, 2007
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    hooligan1
    Member

    I have a couple questions about shooting flake. Short of buying an agitator spraygun. What is the best way to keep the flake evenly distributed in the cup? What size tips are needed to properly spray flake and does the size of the flake matter to which tip is used?

    Thanks
     
  13. Lil' Billy
    Joined: Dec 9, 2006
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    Lil' Billy
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    from Georgia

    Condor you make it seem all too easy! I know I'll prolly muck it up the first try, but your tech definitely makes me wanna give it a go.
     
  14. CAS
    Joined: Oct 26, 2001
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    CAS
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    Wow. That's really cool. Great way to sum it up. I always like seeing how other people lay the flake.
    Great job!!!
     
  15. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
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    zman
    Member
    from Garner, NC

    Great work man, thanks for the insight...

    Maybe read the article? He pretty much tells it all... tip size, stirring up until he shoots, the shimmy, the shake...
     
  16. kustombuilder
    Joined: Sep 18, 2002
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    kustombuilder
    Member
    from Novi, MI

    I WANT TO KNOW MORE! i'm eating this stuff up. always been a fan of Conder's art, paint, everything. was doing some searching for custom paint and Conder in particular when i came across this little tid bit. very well written Tim and very thorough. but i just want to know MORE! more about how you do outlines and more on the shadows you always seem to have that make your flames look like they are standing right up off the vehicle. more on EVERYTHING. i feel like a junky who needs a fix.
     
  17. srosa707
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    srosa707
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    from Sacramento

    Awesome. Can you show how to do "Fish Scales"?
     
  18. srosa707
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    srosa707
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    from Sacramento

    Also, let me see if I understand the Pearl Orange step. Do you spray thr orange, then tape off the outside edge of the orange and use that as the "outline" istead of striping it later with a brush? How do you keep the tape symetrical when laying it over the orange? Because I dont see the orange outline on the final product.
     
  19. Conder
    Joined: Jan 16, 2005
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    Conder

    There is no brushstriping in the Bikernet story. I intended to use masked outlines on that job, but changed my mind while writing the article. I wound up burying the flames in clear, sanding everything flat and then coating the work in MetalFlake Spray Mask. I then hand cut each flame outline with a #11 X-Acto blade and sprayed down H.O.K. KBC-11 Apple Red Candy...After all that was done I coated it all in H.O.K. UK-11 Candy Apple Red.

    If you try the tape technique and want to control your lines, try using 3M Fine line "green" tape. I use 1/16". Slightly overlapping the edge of your outline tape over the basic flame tape will let you know where you are on your layout. Use the back of your fingernail to burnish the tape. Be sure to do your layout in a very well lit space.

    Haven't been on here in a while - haven't updated the site in a while either, but if you want to see more go to "current Work" and click on the pictures. - www.condercustom.com - Thanks!
     

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  20. ...Conder, thanks so much! Great work as always!
     

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