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Technical ***May 2023 May Showers Bring Bangers***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, May 1, 2023.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 470

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    Link to previous month: April 2023 Banger Meet Thread

    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    Stay safe.


    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: [email protected]
    phone: 951-695-7313.


    A few links to speed equipment companies there may be more
    https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
    http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
    http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
    https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
    https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts

    Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:
    http://www.fordgarage.com/


    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055


    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/


    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html


    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461


    Helpful Model A tools and tips:
    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html


    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109


    Elrod's stuck head tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487


    Model A generator to alternator conversion:
    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html


    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465


    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
    http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm
     
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  2. Outback
    Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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    Outback
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    from NE Vic

    I'm here but with nothing to add, mine is still patiently waiting it's turn again. IMG_20230501_205859527.jpg
     
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  3. Fired up the roadster for the first time this year. Found out that the top gasket on the B fuel pump had dried out over the winter leaving quite a mess on the floor when I turned the fuel on. First time that ever happened.
     
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  4. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    from Colorado


  5. wuga
    Joined: Sep 21, 2008
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    43 degrees here in Southern Ontario today. Still a little cool for the RPU. Biting at the bit.
    Warren
     
  6. Had to rebuild a 94 for one of the coops
    It took 2 to get good part’s enough for a decent one
    All good now
    J
     
  7. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.

    good morning
    are we ever going to find "Normal"
     
  8. wuga
    Joined: Sep 21, 2008
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    I have installed a set of bomber seats using the Hells Gate side rails. I really like the look, but I find getting in and out of the restrictive door of the RPU is had on this 80 year old butt dragging over the raised sides. I want the aluminum seat, but I don't want to increase the bottom cushion. Is anyone using an aluminum bomber seat with padding that has lower side rails?
    Warren

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  9. It's alive!! More details incoming...

     
  10. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    Had two of mine at the OC Model A Pancake Breakfast yesterday

    20230430_125549.jpg
     
  11. trikejunkie
    Joined: Dec 2, 2011
    Posts: 220

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    from Scotland

    I`m still here hacking on with my coupe, rear brakes and axle all completed as is the fuel and exhaust systems-I just made a pulley to fit the v8 water pump that will take a 32 fan .Tomorrow it is front brake lines and new front lever arm shocks to fit .I`m getting there !
     
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  12. IMG_1538.jpg It's been a while since I've checked in. Recently got my coupe up and running after a several year slumber.
     
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  13. MJW
    Joined: Jun 29, 2006
    Posts: 474

    MJW
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    from NJ
    1. PA. NJ. local HAMBERS group

    Picked this up at a Model A only swap. Ruckstell Aluminum head for a Model A. Its really cool but I would be afraid to run and ruin it and don't need any more wall hangers.
    Only info I found was a photo of one on a motor at the speedway museum site.
    Looks like it was run and then flycut, there is some pitting in the combustion chamber but no cracks or repairs. I'm going to sell it but wanted to offer it up here first PM me if interested. I'll probably put it in the classifieds this weekend if no one here claims it..
     

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  14. IMG_1391.jpg I forgot to load a picture of the car!! DOH!!!
     
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  15. All right! So....faulty torque wrench resulted in a leaking head gasket. Gasket replaced. Good torque wrench used. Seems to be holding. Pretty amazing the power difference and driveability difference between my engine and a stocker! I'm pretty pumped. I'll report back once I break in the engine a bit more and give it all she's got!
     
  16. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.

  17. Thanks
     
  18. No competitor's were willing to come out and play at the upcoming vintage races the middle of this month at Buttonwillow Raceway Park. So regrettably we had to "pull the plug" on the "PreWar/Historic" race group!

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  19. Stovebolt
    Joined: May 2, 2001
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    20230503_133434.jpg

    No wonder the B leaked oil from what was left of the front seal.

    Popped a rod and main cap off - no babbits - YAY!!!
     
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  20. V4F
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.


    where did you get the "honey combed" radiator ? very nice
     
  21. trikejunkie
    Joined: Dec 2, 2011
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    from Scotland

    I have not put a picture up of progress for a while so here is one! New pulley made for the V8 water pump and fitted too,I made it 0.002" interference as it is aluminium and added a grub screw-takes a 32 fan to keep the look. 20230503_164344.jpg
     
  22. Outback
    Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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    Outback
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    from NE Vic

    By accident really, when I was looking for a good rad a localish dealer had this one at a great price, wasn't till later it dawned on me it was different to normal
    It still has the makers badge on it too.
     
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  23. Did a little driving today. Farthest I've taken it....

    It's really interesting driving this thing now. With all the miles I've put on this thing with a stock engine. Driving it everywhere I went at full throttle. It's just different.

    With the new engine, things feel much more modern. It revs quicker. Makes good power. I maybe give it a 1/8th throttle and im off, a 1/4 throttle and im flying! It's just so so different. The car feels like a hot rod now. It's completely changed things.
     
  24. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 777

    railcarmover

    8EA5FC29-9404-4ED8-ABDB-99DBC0BA5DEB.jpeg 74A96F31-3D4C-44D3-AC48-61A95DA39872.jpeg Bought another chassis to waste time and money with. The plan is to make a fool of myself breaking expensive parts racing others doing the same thing.

    Hung fresh woven shoes on the front, a 5 leaf reverse eye front spring and tube shocks all the way around, Mechanicals,cast drums and Teds floaters..got them adjusted correctly and she stops pretty good for rod brakes.
     
  25. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    V4F
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    from middle ca.


    i have had several pulleys like that . finally went to a billet steel pulley .. no more trouble ...... steve
     
  26. I stumbled upon photos of this Gemsa-headed Donovan engine built by @320ciabone. It's hard to see, but the engine has a front distributor drive which I'm led to believe is a KONG piece.

    As far as gears, does anyone know what would be used to spin the distributors at cam speed? I've got castings for a Kong front cover, and distributor stand. Gemsa Donovan 1.jpeg Gemsa Donovan 2.jpeg Gemsa Donovan 4.jpeg 345020309_689935839602310_6494680004290324892_n.jpeg
     
  27. same gear set as a flathead V8 or Mod "T"
     
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  28. V4F
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    from middle ca.


    did you make it ?
     
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  29. Dan from Oakland
    Joined: Jan 16, 2009
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    Retson- lots of stuff MIGHT work as John mentioned. 1st step is to figure out what the center distance is between the cam and distributor shaft. Figure that out, and the rest is pretty easy. Speedway has the V-8 gears if you want to poke around in dark. I'll post the v-8 center distance later.

    The 49-53 Ford V-8 distributor gears run on a 1.110" center distance
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2023
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  30. Savage Coupe
    Joined: Jun 20, 2020
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    Savage Coupe
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    from Washington

    I have a COOK B side cover. It has a thick rubber type gasket. Anyone know where I might find a replacement?
    Thanks. 33C88DC0-0C83-4482-A429-89C53751F3F2.jpeg DB427BB7-93C9-4F61-97A1-1EA6A12A4F34.jpeg
     
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