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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, May 1, 2016.

  1. rtsidejohnny
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  2. so how does this plate come out?? IMG_2348.JPG come out?
     
  3. Two screws hold it to the body. I see one
     
  4. winduptoy
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    Had to go for a drive in the Cabriolet today. I'm loving the overdrive.

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  5. henry roberts
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    from australia

    the number isn't the standard one, but possibly aircooled vw.
     
  6. The screw you can see seemed to be an adjuster as it moves from side to side as you turn it. Maybe it's just bent. I will try it again. Thing is cleaning up nice for originally looking like it had been buried for the last 50 years.
     
  7. Screw just turned. Got a hooked pick under the plate and got some movement. A couple minutes of wiggling and it came up. Apparently only the rubber plugs in the side tabs hold it in place. Rather than mud seems like a good old mixture of oil, grease and dirt. looks great under the muck.

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  8. V4F
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    I would like a "lovered" front apron (below the radiator) if someone has excess to their needs ....... steve

    makin progress on the dist I see
     
  9. blgitn
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  10. Tj
    The Miller Hi-Speed OHV was produced after Feb. 1929 when Miller sold out to George Schofield (Schofield of America). CRAGAR who produced the OHV and DOHC heads, closed it's door after a couple of years and sold the patterns to George Wight the owner of Bell Auto Parts. It was Wight who made some changes to the design to make the CRAGAR OHV into a crossflow. I understand that in doing so the valves were shrouded with the new design; and the head was not successful. Schofield then DID NOT make a crossflow
     
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  11. OK...Going to Bubba before I screw it up...
     
  12. Ok! Guys!!! I'm Leandro and I live in Argentina! I like old ford's and I trying to build my first hot rod, So I bought the engine as it is from a local enthusiast! They said was a engine from another guy in my town who raced inin the seventies with a model A Ford 4 door with wood structure over country roads...
    Some features are drilled crank, model B grind cam, ported, lightened flywheel, pressure oiling system, the model C head with the water pump! The said he touch 140 km/h...
    My goal is leave the engine as it is!! I think! Or maybe I need a high compression head? Another thing is the B camshaft with unknown specs!


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  13. BCCHOPIT
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    All this talk about Winfield carbs we need some intakes
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    This one fits a Rajo head
     
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  14. V4F
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    good work !
     
  15. youngrodder1929
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    Anyone tell me what a good sparkplug for the Riley 2 port I had the the auto lite 404 as per the instructions they seem way to short to me

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  16. orangeamcs
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    Call autolites tech line and tell them the problem they will set you up
     
  17. Gary in MN
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    Hi youngrodder1929 : I am running Champion RN 14 YC in my repro R2P. Gary in MN.
     
  18. 97
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    Do you reckon anybody at Autolite's tech line will even know what a 2 port Riley head for a 1930 Model A Ford is,.............. let alone which spark plug will work?
    They do list Model A under Ford for 28-31 which is great, but through the flathead V8 years their catalog ignores US Ford production altogether...some years there is not even a Ford listing . www.autolite.com
    The only Riley they list is the English made Riley car.
     
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  19. V4F
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    just send the kit to me & ill do all the figuring for you
     
  20. edfueler
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    Interesting modifications on that engine, Leandro. It appears that someone cut a fuel pump boss into the block but towards the back of the block instead of the usual B position. Is there an eccentric welded onto the cam to drive a fuel pump?
     
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    Thanks for your reply! Yes, you can see it in the picture!

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  22. Flywheel was machined to 53 pounds, model A pressure plate and V8 disc!
    I'm worry about this full oiling system, didn't have a valve relief! All after reading some posts about main rear leaking and seals!

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  23. Bluto
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    Plugs? Call NGK or Champion Techs
     
  24. orangeamcs
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    Autolites can cross reference the plug that young rodder has already and get one that's longer. Or he could spend time in the catalog himself to figure out how the numbers on the plugs read for size length and heat range
     
  25. 97
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    An Autolite 404 plug is a 14mm plug with 3/4" reach... I don't know of a longer reach plug in that size/ heat range....however as I say Autolite does not provide the information on their website to enable anybody to make a heat range vs reach plug choice. Don't get me wrong , I use Autolite plugs, and I like the product, but I find their technical backup lacking.
    If the manufacturer recommends the 404 for the Riley head, and the current plug is in fact a 3/4 reach plug maybe the head is machined incorrectly ? I guess the plug is seated correctly ?
     
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  26. Tiny
    Your dizzy seems not dedicated to one specific application.

    Based on the following links:
    http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig202-1.htm
    http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig202-2.htm
    http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig202-3.htm
    It seems it was intented for all kind of engine for V8, inline6 or flat4 with the correspending cap.

    Based on what I see on the bottom of the 1st page advance curve of 2558301 is 20° @ 3800 engine RPM
     
  27. Thanks Widefive63. So what does anyone think about that for an advance curve? It seems like it would need some tuning to work on an A with that curve. Maybe its already been monkeyed with? I'll have to see if I can find a way to test it.
     
  28. Good lord what have I done? I have been wanting an A pickup for a lot of years and I finally got one. Before I picked it up I had already bought a 81A V8 core to build for it but now I have been thinking "Banger". Put about 150 miles on it in the last week and topped out at 55 mph. Fun to drive but a little slow, guess I'll be hanging around here for a few ideas.
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    The V8 in the back of my Falcon, beautiful core. I have a set of NOS .080" pistons a set of Weiand "cheater" heads for it but that is on the back burner now.
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    From everything I have read this is a Model C engine. Has the "C" on the head between #2 and 3 cylinder.
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    The 97 gives pretty good throttle response but craps out at higher speeds, I don't think the gravity fuel system can keep up, thinking of adding electric fuel pump. Would like to just stick on the mechanical but the only one I've found was $325.

    My friend Keven Vaughan has loaned me a 6:1 head that I plan to try and I have a Mallory dizzy to go with it.
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    I'm new to the "Banger" scene so I am open to any advice and I might actually use some of it. These things are a bit different from the Y-Blocks I'm used to. Thanks in advance for the help.

    Cheers!
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  29. Caught the Banger virus for sure! Great pickup! I love it!
    I'm not a Banger guru! But... A high compression Head and a performance cam make the big difference!

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  30. youngrodder1929
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    Very nice Pu ! You may find your 55mph top speed could be a gearing related not so much power 3.27 or 3.54 is lot better than 4.10 or 3.78 when you have less power and a 3 speed you have to make the best of it !

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