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Technical *** March 2015 Banger meet - are you ready for spring?***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Mar 1, 2015.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 330


    Here is the banger link list .

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:

    Maybe these links should be posted early in each months meeting.
  2. kevinwalshe
    Joined: Apr 22, 2010
    Posts: 429


    Hopefully I can get my Tudor on the road before summer starts. All the info here is epic.
  3. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 960


    Beware of the Ides of March....
    Already? I haven't even started my New Years resolutions yet.........never mind, already forgot........
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  4. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
    Posts: 5,114

    Member Emeritus

    Yes I AM ready for Spring!

    Been too cold and wet here!
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  5. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,618

    from wyoming

    I am trying to get my coupe up and running by the summer and I realize I am running out of winter! My plan is to get it together and drive it through the summer and work out the bugs and take it apart for paint and upholstery next winter. I have recently finished building headlight bar and installing taillights. Now comes the rebuilding of the sheet metal for the roof[/ATTACH] Headlights2.jpg Tail lights.jpg
  6. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 26,289


    My 1912 Touring will be out this Spring for the first time in 15 years. Three year old grandson is great motivation. Bob
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  7. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,135


    Wow, is it March already?
    Thanks for the link.
  8. Sent the flywheel out to be chopped, having the counterbalances welded on the crank, got the cam back from the plater's. Just slipping around trying to get stuff done. Building new front spring hangers for the lakes modified. Pushing to get 5 hours a day. Gotta get it donee !!
  9. ebtm3
    Joined: May 23, 2007
    Posts: 837


    Bill, You're doing good. I have trouble getting 3 hrs a day in on my latest car.

  10. Herb, is that the air-cooled wagon you're working on?
  11. ebtm3
    Joined: May 23, 2007
    Posts: 837


    Yeah, Bill

  12. After a bit of a search, I found an original cast iron Winfield crows foot yellow head. I managed to easily get the stock head off and am going to tackle the studs next, but going to mix up a concoction of Acetone and ATF to soak them. What aftermarket studs would be recommended to reinstall the Winfield.
    Cylinder walls look nice and may have been a rebuild at one point. Pistons all have "STD" on them, so happy about that as well.
  13. @hb32, I used studs and nuts from Roy Nacewicz; Helluva nice guy, excellent fasteners (he makes them in-house to Ford specs), and speedy shipping. Tell him Gary in Texas sent you :)
  14. Thanks for the quick reply Gary and you have seen pics of the Winfield so no need to post it here. Is there any difference in length of the studs from stock using the Winfield? Also, was thinking of using acorn nuts like the V8`s, is this a good idea? I am going to order new floor boards from him as well whenever I sell some parts I am not using.
  15. hb32 Good deal, only crowsfoot I see are really messed up on the deck.
  16. I will post pics when its in my hands :cool: but Gary has had a sneak look at it for his thoughts.
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  17. Nicest one I've ever seen!
  18. Thanks Gary. I will be looking for your guidance as well as the rest of the subscribers for help getting it on and running. Deciding if it is worth the effort to pull the motor and have inserts installed on the mains. Do not have the $$$`s for a full out overhaul, new rods, moving parts, etc and not looking to make bags of power, just a dependable driver.
  19. Snyders sells a set of head studs made from the same material as ARP at a reasonable price
  20. Like to see the photos of the head, I have owned 2 "Crows Foot heads and both have been Red. Both of the heads had the valve pockets opened up. I believe they would clear a 2" intake. Current head is a "milled and filled " head. I plan on using a Winfield Yellow head on my current build . It has the regular combustion chamber. This is a babbit engine, mains and rods both. This after all these years being brain washed to install inserts. I recently had a quote of $800 to bore A block for insert mains. Babbit quote was $525 to pour mains to fit crank. I no longer feel the need for the expense of high RPM's.
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  21. Cleaning up the "B" motor and found a crack. What to do?
  22. SJR
    Joined: Feb 17, 2011
    Posts: 126


    4 barrel on a banger too much? anyone run one and whats the results?
  23. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 960


    There's a few around.

    Track cars mainly, too much for a streeter.
  24. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,135


  25. Tossing this around as well and no plans to build a race motor. I will have whats in there looked at but will probably have the deck cleaned up as well as honing the walls.
  26. OHV DeLuxe
    Joined: May 27, 2005
    Posts: 351

    OHV DeLuxe
    from Norway

    Where do i find OHV head gaskets? Best brand available?
  27. 97
    Joined: May 18, 2005
    Posts: 1,528


  28. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
    Posts: 5,114

    Member Emeritus

    We are lucky to have a custom gasket maker an hour away. It's a grandfather to son to sons and brothers little company that do everything by hand

    Get on the Ferry!
  29. nailheadroadster
    Joined: Jun 7, 2006
    Posts: 1,523


    Hey fellas! I'm hoping for a bit of guidance on what to do with my engine.

    It's a 1929 model A sport coupe. I got it about a year ago and got it running, looks to be very well taken care of and kept inside (I'm the 3rd owner).

    When i put water in, found that the head leaked into #4, pulled the head, measured cylinders to be .080 over stock, no ridges, looked great. Replaced with a stock head, rebuilt the carb, timed it, new points & condensor... runs great! The suspension and brakes have been completely rebuilt and work amazingly well.

    Now I wanna hop it up a bit and NOT do all the wrong things so here I am asking for wisdom. I would like it to be a car to just drive around, no land speed record breaker or anything like that.

    Kind of a... late 30s to 40s type of hop up.

    I have looked into overdrive trans for lower RPM cruising and a 12 volt conversion is in the works. I like the looks of the Thomas and Lion heads and also the twin 81 downdrafts, but the dual updraft Zenith carbs are cool too. I have an FS distributor and Flamethrower coil ready for after the 12 volt conversion.

    So... what to do? Or more importantly, what NOT to do?

    What parts would give the best bang for the buck? Is a cam swap a good idea? Stipe touring or ? Does a header really do anything on a relatively stock engine?

    I have way too many questions and have read all the threads I could find, yet not really a step by step process on how NOT to destroy the engine.

    Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance for the help!

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