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Technical Mallory vs. MSD Distributors

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 34Larry, May 19, 2020.

  1. 34Larry
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    I'm buying a new distributor for my 331 HEMI. I buy most of my needs from Hot Heads.
    They show two they handle, the Mallory @ $365.00 and the MSD @ $473.00.
    I'm looking for advise on these two, one vs. the other or even advise on another brand. The price is no deterrent, I just want the best out there. Thanks for help you can offer from your own experience's.
     
  2. squirrel
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    from hot heads:

    Mallory Unilite Distributor $ 365.00
    331/354 MSD Pro Billet Distributor
    $ 473.00

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-8391

    now we know what you're asking about.

    If those are the only choices...the MSD would be my choice. But there might be something else out there.
     
  3. oldiron 440
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    My Ford W motor now gets a MSD billit distributor, it replaced a Mallory dullepiont. It just comes down to parts and technology.
    On my RB mopar I went from a modified factory electronic distributor to MSD pro billit.
    On both I went from kicking myself to moving forward.
    I use a MSD box somewhere in the car without fail.....
    One more thing: MSD offers distributor caps in black....
     
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  4. Bandit Billy
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    I actually put my money where my fingertips are and purchased the MSD plug and play from Hot Heads for my Desoto hemi. Works muy perfecto!
     
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  5. badvolvo
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    Just an FYI, MSD and Mallory are owned by Holley. I went with MSD on the last few builds.
     
  6. Unless the QC on the Mallory Unilite has improved over the last few years, the MSD is a far superior product.
     
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  7. Never2old
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    from so cal

    I’m going retro on my blown 331 with a Mallory Chevy style on a Hot Heads adapter.


    Sent from my iPhone using H.A.M.B.
     
  8. Atwater Mike
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    My 354 Chrysler hemi has a newly reman. Scintilla Vertex mag by Roger Gleason at Joe Hunt Magnetos.
    Original mag was off Von Franco's Olds in his '34 pickup...I traded him my Jackson Roto-Faze to go on his now famous Kookie Kar klone...
    Roger reversed the spinning mechanism, refinished the case, and replaced magnets and coil. Nice.
    BUT: If I didn't have my Vertex mag, I'd buy the MSD. Dependable hot spark.
     
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  9. Bandit Billy
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    And I will add that if my engine was exposed (it will have a hood) and if the distributor wasn't buried in the back of the engine (desoto) I would have been more concerned with how the distributor looks. You cant see it so I went with runs good and no fuss.

    I would also like to compliment everyone on going most of the page without using the term di_ _ y. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. hotrodjack33
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    Ran a Mallory Unilite on the 302 in my old '32 sedan Deliv. for 12 years. Changed the module, cap and rotor once...only because I lost my nerve. Kept the old parts for spares...never needed them.
     
  11. the msd is the best. its a ball bearing design compared to a bushing design. the timing has less fluctuation. it comes with various springs to set the advance. it also has several bushings to control how much advance it gets. there is a chart that's supplied with all the different combinations so you don't have to guess. its real easy to get it perfect. the msd also allows the advance to be locked out for efi use or in a blower application. I ran one on my hemi with no issues. I also have one in my 66 chevelle and my sons 69 super bee. they work.
     
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  12. Yeah, the red caps are a deal-breaker for me too. The downside to most of these is they use a proprietary cap/rotor that may not be easy to find just anywhere if you need one in a hurry. Not very traditional looking either.

    Mallory design/quality has been uneven at best for years, I've never had any issues with MSD.
     
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  13. 34Larry
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    So far it's (7):cool: to (2) MSD:p), sooooooooooo...…..………. leaning that way to be sure. Special thanks to racer x, and squirrel (Jim), for advice from the racing boys.:D

    BTW I kind of worded this like I'd like advice from just Hemi guys but meant advise from all users of these two brands.
     
  14. 392
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    MSD for me. Not one issue in years. Like racer-x said easy and versatile.
     
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  15. 19Fordy
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    My experience with Mallory Unilite is that the modules burn out
    and are $100+ to replace. Does Pertronix make a kit for MOPAR distributors?
    They are durable units.
     
  16. lostone
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    If its possible on those to run the newer mopar (late 60's- 70's) style electronic distributor I'd run one of those with the gm hei module instead of the mopar brain box in a heart beat. It's a well proven combo across the board on the street, off road and racing.

    In fact my 31 ford will run that setup in the 440.
     
  17. I'm a hard core mopar guy so to say the mopar dist is crap compared to a msd says alot. I swear if you pull out the mopar distributor and put in the msd you will hear the difference as soon as you start it up. The mopar is a brushed unit with alot of slop. The timing light doesn't lie.
     
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  18. 34Larry
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    post deleted. Asked about pertronix for 331 could not find on line. They do not make one. On the phone now to them waiting to find out if any other one they make will work. Will post if they do.

    I waited in que until it timed me out. I've heard bad things about this brand anyway, but Jim says he's put them in the last (3) cars he's built with no issues cropping up. Not going to go this way any so why bother caring?
     
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  19. George
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    The LA can be run by extending the dist. shaft or (better) get an extended intermediate shaft. If you're going to run a non OEM oil pump then you need a different Int. shaft anyway.
     
  20. Ebbsspeed
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    In one of your other posts about this annoying miss your automotive guru had written the firing order wrong. He had it as 1-8-4-3-6-7-5-2. Was that a typo on your part, or did he actually have the firing order wrong?
     
  21. tubman
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    I have a Mallory "flattop" in the hemi in my race car (Avatar), and I put in a set of quick change gears for each track that will limit the RPM to 5500 (usually) on the backstretch. Works great, and it has points.
     
  22. 34Larry
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    Sorry a typo on my part. 1 8 4 3 6 5 7 2 is correct and the way I have it set.
     
  23. Mr48chev
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    I'd just bone up for the MSD and be done with it. Proven to work, no issue with finding parts or info and you aren't mixing and matching parts and pieces.
    Even if they make one you don't just throw in a Pertronix kit and go, you switch to everything that they specify to make it work/last or you have issues. How may dozens of "I put a Pertronix in mid distributor and now it doesn't run after a few days threads do we have on here? Great if you buy the whole package, not so great if you try to use some of your existing pieces.
    LA Mopar distributors aren't the most accurate things around according to my Mopar buddies. Even then you would have to hunt down the right shaft or find someone who can make one up.
    Mallory: Work great if everything is perfect with the system but again tend to blow modules if things aren't.
    I'd think that when the drags open up at PIR so you could actually walk the pits a bit and see what guys use 75% of the guys racing in anything besides dragsters and funny cars are using MSD. That from a guy who really isn't an MSD fan for street cars because a lot of them I see locally don't really need all the race hardware on the street with no more motor than they have.
     
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  24. GMC BUBBA
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    And I would buy the MSD ( forgive me ) especially for the HEMI ...As a ignition dude i would say " Buy the MSD like the others ....
     
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  25. 1971BB427
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    That's easily avoided if you put the protection ahead of them. Mallory sells one for $35 that clips alternator spikes. But I've usually just put a ceramic factory resistor ahead of them and never had one burn out.
     
  26. I don’t know what kind of MSD crap I get to see???
    Granted if it’s running fine I probably won’t see it,,, But when I do see the Might Suddenly Die Ignition system it isn’t playing ball.

    I don’t give a shit what color the cap is Because there’s like 229,000 different colors of spray paint.
     
  27. I just modified the original distributor with factory HEI pickup and reluctor, mounted a GM module on the cowl. Works well. I don't see how one of the subject distributors, at about three times the cost, could be better.

    My 2 cents

    Ben
     
  28. tubman
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    The factory distributors in these engines were dual point units already, and if not all worn out are perfectly adequate. Put in a couple sets of quality points and a good condenser and use Packard 440 wires, and you have a completely adequate setup for all but all-out racing.

    I know, because I ran one in my race car before I found the Mallory. But the "flattop" sure looks cooler than a stocker!:cool:
     
  29. the small block mopar and sbc caps are the same part number. they make a black cap. the 331 and 354 use the same distributor. if it was my hemi i wouldnt hack a stock gm ignition into my build. if i felt that was my only option i would at least upgrade to the accel hotter ignition pieces. i tried that route on a sbc and it didnt work well on my hopped up engine. i put the accel parts on with only a slight improvement. as far as what is the advantage read my previous posts. you get what you pay for. the ignition system is not the place to cheap out on.
     
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  30. 2OLD2FAST
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    I think its OBSCENE that a distributor costs nearly $500 !
     
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