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Lug Centric Tire Balancing in CT/NY/NJ

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by andexxx, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. andexxx
    Joined: Jul 28, 2011
    Posts: 10


    I have a set of Hurst tires and have called every shop in Southern CT and lower NY to find someone who can "LUG CENTRIC" balance these tires. Does anyone have any suggestions?
  2. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 8,002


    What kind of wheels are they on that they need to be lug centric balanced?
  3. Joe Johnston
    Joined: Jun 29, 2008
    Posts: 127

    Joe Johnston
    from Ohio

    I had trouble finding a shop also. Try an older well established tire & brake shop. When my Thunderbird wire wheels were balanced the guys mentioned some Dodge truck wheels needed lug centric balancing - might try a Dodge dealer??
  4. andexxx
    Joined: Jul 28, 2011
    Posts: 10


    The wheels are AR Torque Thrust wheels. The rims should be able to be hub-centric balanced, but the dang tires can only be lug-centric balanced per Cody atbHurst Tires.

  5. BobMcD
    Joined: Jan 25, 2013
    Posts: 322


    Ask your local tire store if they have a flange plate adapter. Hawika make a good one. Most major tire stores should have one if the carry aftermarket wheels. Lug centric vs Hub centric has nothing to do with the particular tire, only has to do with how the wheel centers on the car.
  6. 34toddster
    Joined: Mar 28, 2006
    Posts: 1,482

    from Missouri

    How about a bubble old time balancer?
  7. Dane
    Joined: May 6, 2010
    Posts: 1,351

    from Soquel, CA

    How do the tires know the difference?
  8. Balance it on your front spindle, back off the bearings a bit,,balance the drum or disc first. Then you will really know what you have,,,,
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2013
  9. Mojo
    Joined: Jul 23, 2002
    Posts: 1,866


    I couldn't find any up here in the desert. I have some old MT 5 spoke wheels from the mid 60's, I couldn't even find anyone who knew what I meant. That's some old technology thats being lost.

    I don't see how it makes any different to the tires, I thought it was only because the center pilot hole wasn't machined centered to the wheel.

    I've looked into balancing beads, they look like it might work. The Toyota 4x4 guys have to have their wheels lug centric balanced from what i've read. They really like the beads, because it resolves a lot of problems with giant tires and no one able to balance them.
  10. Dan Timberlake
    Joined: Apr 28, 2010
    Posts: 1,436

    Dan Timberlake

    I'd say lug centric mounting would potentially have bigger centering changes (that secretly modify or even kill a good balance job, and cause tread runout to boot ) than the cone adapters often used for hub centering.

    I'd take my chances with one round of hub centered balancing, and measure the rm and tread runout when installed on the car. In the men time Maybe look for some place with on-the-car balancing capabilities just in case.
  11. hoop
    Joined: Mar 21, 2007
    Posts: 635


    Check Toyota dealers ,The aluminum wheels on the larger suv and pickups are lug centric balanced.
  12. Dane
    Joined: May 6, 2010
    Posts: 1,351

    from Soquel, CA

    If the hub and the lug holes are not on the same center the wheel would not fit the hub properly and no amount of balancing would compensate for the resulting out of round condition. Also, the Internet myth that hub centric is stronger than lug centric is B.S. ​
  13. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 32,127


    I actually had to look up "lug centric balancing" to see what it was but after watching this video it makes sense.

    If you can find a shop that does on the car balancing that should work fine. If you haven't checked with them I'd try the bigger newer stores that belong to the big tire chains as they are more likely to have the latest balancers and equipment in the shops.
  14. The old Ammco balancers had adapter plates for them that picked up on the lugs. Popular ones were for the VW and old Pontiac 8-lug wheels.

  15. forty1fordpickup
    Joined: Aug 20, 2008
    Posts: 298


    Find a shop that has been in business for 40 or 50 years. They should have the old school equipment. There is one in Manchester, NH if you need to go that far. PM me if you need info.
  16. I had a issue years back with balance ,,, used the old style "Hunter" on car wheel balancer at a old time garage,,,,,perfect results... have to remember if you pull the wheels and tires off for any typs on service to to mark a lug and mark the wheel so you have the correct position
  17. big duece
    Joined: Jul 28, 2008
    Posts: 6,607

    big duece
    from kansas

    I may in the future run some '40 ford style wheels, which I have been told to be lug centric
    balanced. Trouble is nobody in my area has the old school equipment in service anymore. My american torq thrust have a machined hub centric that is true to the outside dia, which would be easy to balance. What options are there?
  18. andexxx
    Joined: Jul 28, 2011
    Posts: 10


    Thank you everyone for your your advice. For those of you that said "it only matters if the rims are lug centric" - that is what I thought until I spoke to Cody at Hurst Tires -

    He confirmed that his tires MUST be lug centric balanced regardless of the rims...I am going to try the Toyota dealer in my town and see what they say.

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