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Technical Low vacuum reading 283

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  1. Thepartsbinguy1
    Joined: Oct 14, 2019
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    Engine idles and revs great with no load. Runs smooth down the road. Under hard acceleration I have a bad misfire. Standard Chevy 283 with an upgraded set of springs in the cylinder heads. Comp cams 12-344-5 lift int/510 exh/525 and a 650 Holley. The points gap was set by a friend with a dwell meter and float levels were both set. Carb screws set at One and a half turns out each. When I connect a vacuum gauge to full manifold it hovers around 5hg and carb screws do little to change it? Hosed the bay with either and the idle never budged. Advancing the timing leads to hard starting. Seems a bit of blue smoke out of both pipes. Pulled plug wires one by one and every time the engine dropped rpm’s significantly. Any ideas?
     
  2. Jmountainjr
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    Ok, it's a 283, with near 300 degrees of advertised duration and more than .500 lift. The cam operating range is 3700-6500 RPM. Based on the 301s I ran years ago, I don't think you should be expecting a lot of idle vacuum with that cam. Backfire could be lean carb under acceleration or ignition.
     
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  3. oldiron 440
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    Yep I was thinking too much ignition timing, how much @ 2500 and how much total?
     
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  4. Ericnova72
    Joined: May 1, 2007
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    I agree, cam is huge for the little cube 283....it's never going to make a loft of vacuum....if you can get 8" I'd be amazed. 246°/253° @.050" duration is a whopper in that small an engine.
    That 3700-6500 rpm range given is based on use in a 350 cubic inch.

    It's going to like a lot of initial timing, like 18-24°, if not just locked like the racers do at 34-36°. Distributor is definately going to need a recurve if you want to keep it with an advance curve of some sort, because you've got to keep total mechanical advance under 38-40° max in most cases

    On the non-responsive idle mixture screws, I'd bet this is the common deal of "primary throttle idle speed screw cranked up to get enough idle airflow and good idle speed, but now your running at idle on the transfer slots, thus no mixture control from the screws". Very common with a big cam and guys that don't know what you have to do to the carb to get everything right.

    If you take the carb off the manifold, you can examine for too much transfer slot is showing below the closed throttle plates....if showing more than about .050"(basically more than just a square opening) it's open too far.
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    Fix is done a couple of ways. You can try cracking the rear throttle open a hair, to bleed some air in, and close the front throttle screw back down and see if that gets you there. Can't go alot this way, you don't want to expose any rear transfer slot.
    If it doesn't, now you are looking at drilling air bleed holes in the primary throttle plates like most of Holley higher performance carbs have.
    Start with a 1/16" hole on the front half of each primary blade, about 1/8" from the edge.
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