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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mikec4193, May 27, 2019.

  1. Hi Hamb folks...

    So I am collecting pieces and parts for a Jalopy rebuild...the old heap had two separate hanging pedals that were sorta hanging off the firewall and the dashboard too (literally 2 nuts holding the whole thing on)....I believe from what I can tell this old heap was probably out running circles at local oval track in the late 1950's to the early 1960's....the famous John Milner '32 Ford was from that same era...
    So does anybody on here know what those pedals on the coupe and the master cylinder were from?
    Milner firewall.PNG
    Master cylinder pic above...
    Milner hanging pedals.PNG
    Hanging pedals shown here...

    This is the era I am trying to replicate...

    Any insight would be very appreciated.

    MikeC
     
  2. Those are Ansen pedals, and a 1960-62 Chevy truck master cylinder 1 1/8” bore
     
  3. junkman8888
    Joined: Jan 28, 2009
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    Johnny at "Reno Rod Shop" sells reproduction Ansen pedal assemblies and parts, you can call him at (405) 813-1932.
     
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  4. continentaljohn
    Joined: Jul 24, 2002
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    Lots of copy’s of the ansen pedals and some don’t even look close . Real ones pop up on here or ebay now and then...
     
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  5. Gman0046
    Joined: Jul 24, 2005
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    Toyota pedals fit and work just fine.
     
  6. prpmmp
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    In honor of 3windowLarry!! Ryan!! Gman is off his meds again!!! Pete
     
  7. Aaaakkkkk!!! your keyboard should revolt against you.
     
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  8. Not that it matters, but Toyota what??????
     
  9. paul55
    Joined: Dec 1, 2010
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    from michigan

    pedals and master for sale in classifieds...ansen style.
     
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  10. el Scotto
    Joined: Mar 3, 2004
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    from Tracy, CA

    I have a couple sets of originals hanging around out in the shed, I think one set of Moon pedals and a set of Ansens. I should dig them out for reference pictures.

    Someone cut my ‘32 firewall for a set, then patched up the big holes but left the small holes. I’m not sure what I’m doing for a drivetrain on the Deuce yet so I’m leaving the options open for now.
     
  11. Ansen made several types of pedals
    Brake and clutch that used the Chevy truck master
    Single brake pedal

    These are Ansens I found at Rhinebeck these use 39-48 Ford master cylinders
    I repaired the brake pedal
    upload_2019-5-27_17-42-0.png upload_2019-5-27_17-42-15.png upload_2019-5-27_17-42-34.png upload_2019-5-27_17-42-49.png upload_2019-5-27_17-43-24.png upload_2019-5-27_17-43-44.png

    My style N.O.S.
    upload_2019-5-27_17-49-58.png

    This style is what my dad ran on this Fonda Late Model
     
  12. el Scotto
    Joined: Mar 3, 2004
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    from Tracy, CA

    Here’s the Moon diagram

    2B86C2E2-A043-4563-B595-A13E72148AAB.jpeg
     
  13. F&J
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
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    I'd use 60-62 Chevy pickup pedals and firewall & dash brace on your 40 Ford for 2 reasons. One is that Ansen pedals require you to swap master cylinder guts from clutch bore to brake bore, because Chevy masters have the brake bore on the driver side. Ansen is opposite.

    But I would think the bends of the Chevy pedals might be a better location for a 40 because the firewall is further forward from the dash and seat location . The Ansens might end up too far forward on a 40?

    If you do buy 60-62 setup, make sure the seller includes both twin cylinder pushrods. Also, some sellers might try to sell you 63-66 truck setup, but those wont work with the 60-62 master, but they do look similar as far as pedal shape and the firewall/dash brace they hang from.
     
  14. krylon32
    Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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    from Nebraska
    1. Central Nebraska H.A.M.B.

    RJ's Speedshop in Kansas City makes a nice Ansen style pedal assembly. It's a little heavier than the original.
     
  15. missysdad1
    Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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    I am using the Advance Adapters swing pedal kit in two of my Model A projects. It's heavy and well engineered with very pleasing pedal arm shapes. The Advance Adapters kit also has the safety "bumps" on the top to prevent accidental dislodging of the pushrods. Uses common Chevy pickup dual master cylinder with the guts reversed side to side. Makes a very high quality installation.

    https://www.advanceadapters.com/products/716117--dual-swing-pedal-kit/
     
  16. Be sure to reinforce your firewall.

    Charlie Stephens
     

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