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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bigcheese327, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. a-c-h-i-l-l-e
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    a-c-h-i-l-l-e
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    Hi Bob,

    It's not a Ruby, but a Derby.
     
  2. rustydogs
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    MY FIAT WITH 1000RR honda mid mounted engi[​IMG]ne load od work and fun
     
  3. banjeaux bob
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    Does she drift pretty good?
     
  4. banjeaux bob
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    banjeaux bob
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    Merci!
     
  5. Ned Ludd
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    My dad had a 600 with smattering of Abarth bits in the years just before I was born, so I've always had a liking for them, even if they aren't quite cyclecars no matter how they are powered ...

    (I know, Bob, Austin Sevens aren't either :D)
     
  6. banjeaux bob
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    Dawie,this little Almost Abarth is what the start of this thread was about....

    I'm giving you a little poke about the Austins.
    I know where a late '50s DKW wagon is and I've thinking of putting a BMW /6 900cc engine in it.Iknow it wouldn't be as fast as a Hyabusa or this Honda.
     
  7. UKAde
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    This is a bit naughty, but placing this wanted ad here means it gets to the right guys ,

    Wanted for my jappic recreation

    350 ohv twin port late 20,s jap engine
    Sturmey archer CS 3 speed gearbox
    Pair of heavy weight unbraked side car hubs


    Get in touch with even the smallest lead
    Cheers Adrian

    [email protected]
     
  8. Neat 600... There used to be a guy who'd bring his Abarth 1000 Berline up to Mulholland Drive in L.A. to hassle the Minis about 41-42 years ago.

    Back in the mid-70s, I built up a '59 Bianchina (which is based on the Fiat Nuovo 500) with an Abarth 695SS and tricked suspension that was amazingly quick. However, it wouldn't have had the performance that putting a modern Japanese motorcycle engine in it would have had.

    Sadly, I sold it when I moved to NZ...
     
  9. Ned Ludd
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    '50s Deeks aren't that small; they're about VW-sized. The engine capacity of around 1000cc is misleading. The publicity at the time made much of the two-stroke triple being equivalent to a four-stroke six of about two litres, albeit a rather volumetrically-inefficient one. Hence the model name, 3=6.

    Those triples were quite tunable, and the cars had a fair reputation for performance. They were popular here in South Africa. There remains a substantial classic following here. One sees them in use from time to time, sometimes on "hot hatch" modern alloys and 50-series tyres. There's a very tidy silver one that's often parked near my mother-in-law's.

    You will be told that the engine's tone at idle sounds like an Afrikaans word that is not used in polite conversation, repeated over and over :)

    One of the oddest engine swaps I've ever seen was a DKW triple in a Morris Minor, driving the rear wheels. It even had the firewall-mounted DKW radiator, sitting where the Minor's battery usually does. Someone thought enough of the engine to go to the trouble.

    I've often thought the right engine for the car's character would be a Mazda rotary, on an Audi 5-speed transaxle. A step up would be a triple-rotor and Quattro AWD.
     
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  10. banjeaux bob
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    Morgan on nitrous. G.L. pic
     

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    Paris - Nice Darmont V Junior. M.H. pic
     

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    Interesting...
     

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  14. Banjeaux, Ned's comments regarding Deeks reminded me that there were a lot of sports car specials built back in the 1950s, stateside, using those engines/drivelines. You may want to google to find out more.
     
  15. Ned, wouldn't your mention of using a Mazda rotary be more appropriate in one of these..? ;):D

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  16. banjeaux bob
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    I like THAT a lot! Looks like a mini Alpine or Tiger.
     
  17. banjeaux bob
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    Thanks! I'll do that.Got any tag words that might help me out?
     
  18. Ned Ludd
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    When I was in high school I had a chance to buy the coupé version of that, which had an air-cooled twin in the back, not the rotary, in restorable condition. I could never afford it, though.
     
  19. I'll have a look and see what I can dig up...
     
  20. I may also see what I might have in my library, too, Banjeaux...

    Here's a DKW from Ned's part of the world:

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  21. Deek single seater that was on CL...

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  22. DKW Monza coupe...

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  23. Ned Ludd
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    From a South African website, perhaps, but those aren't any kind of Southern African registration plates. Local plates at the time would have started with C, N, O, or T. And all the cars in the photo are LHD.

    No, we were never so lucky ... :D
     
  24. I stand corrected, Ned. Cool car at any rate.
     
  25. Dale Davenport
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  26. Maybe I should have bought the Panhard Eddie Iskenderian kept trying to sell me back in the 1970s - I could have built one of these with it..! :cool::cool::cool:

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  27. Dale Davenport
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    Gotta love the lil Panhard boxer twin - - - heck, you just gotta love any engine whose designers had the inspiration (and temerity) to include torsion-bar valve springs in the design.

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    Mentions of two stroke cars brings memories of the Melkus RS 1000


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    Thoughts in these ancient directions have to include one of my all time favorite designs, the Panhard powered Deutsch-Bonnet cars - - - absolutely beautiful (to me anyhow):

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    While this stuff doesn't directly relate to cyclecars, the Panhard engine makes for interesting speculation as a potential cyclecar power source - - so too does the DKW two stroke triple. In fact, the DKW power train and frame are part of my own cyclecar design - - but more about that in a little while (as I finish my scribbles and drawings).


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  28. Dale Davenport
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    banjeaux bob wrote:

    Thanks for the tip Bob - - - I will do this. (And I kinda like the guy's sweater).

    .
     
  29. banjeaux bob
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    Thanks for the tip Bob - - - I will do this. (And I kinda like the guy's sweater).



    Dale,Dougal is to sweaters what Imelda Marcos is to shoes!

    BanjeauX Bob
     
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