Let's Talk Cyclecars

Ade,looks like a one time show.A lot of work for those story boards.

 

I'm not sure if at least one of the two Neander open-wheel cyclecars is a tilting model, doubtless developed in the course of devising tilting sidecars? Neither looks anything like this one, though:

The search delivered this history: http://www.germanmotorcycles.cl/Neumann-Neander/NEUMANN-NEANDERcoments.html The site is odious, however, as will be apparent as soon as you start reading. Proceed with caution.

 

Hello Ned,
You are quite right - article is hard to read, but could be found a few interesting facts about Naender and his magnificient vehicles... A few more photos are attached, between them one simple 3-wheeler with American engine (!) (Indian Chief), than one tandem 3-seater and one front wheel-drive rear-wheel steering 3-wheeler (!) ... Have to addmit that author was right in one: all vehicles are extraordinary and made as light air-planes to be driven on roads! Named by Neander as "Fahrmachinen" ~ "driving machines"...
Ciao, Zoran

 

Thanks Bob,
Yes it would be Morgan-esk. I took some pictures and drawings with me when I visited with the inspector.
The inspector was just lost since it was an odd request.

I am early in my planning so before I get too deep I wanted to know the street legal issues.

Thanks for the heads up on other members three wheeled cars.

Lost

 

Lost, where do you live? I'm in Florida and I have found the DMV's have gotten much more strict in recent years. All states are trying to have the same rules for titling cars. I'm trying right now to title my JZR kit car 3 wheeler. They request (demand) a Certificate of Origin for the kit and ability to trace ownership if it has changed hands.

In most states a 3 wheeler is titled as a motorcycle. Some states have a max weight limit. All homebuilt/custom cars must be inspected before title and tag are issued.

For a total homebuilt you will have to show invoices for all parts used to build. If you build the frame you have to have invoices for the steel used and a certified welder has to do the welding. All front suspension and steering parts have to come from a manufactured car (no ATV parts allowed).

The days of scratch building anything you want are gone. My guess is there have been too many wrecks with home builts or the laywers have gotten involved an ruined it for all of us.
Good luck,

 

I loved the one where you pulled back on the steering wheel for the brakes! The harder you pull, the more forward inertia you have, the less the brake effort. Wow, a self defeating brake system. The laywer's would love this one.

 

My theory is somewhat different. A healthy system of civil tort law ought to render these regulations redundant, so it's quite clear that there is something different going on. It's called barriers to entry, and it happens because the OEMs' profitability depends on production technologies which require the creation of demand for huge volumes of production, which would collapse overnight if there were thousands of mom-and-pop micromanufacturers making, um, what people actually want.

 

Amilcar CC Lezebre pic...

 

Lezebra D Type LeZebra pic....

 

I live in Idaho which might be a blessing or a curse when it comes to this idea.

I would like to use the swing arm of a small motor cycle for the rear. So that would be the base vehicle. I am not sure yet for the front axle and suspension. I want to go small so that limits so many modern cars as donors. Unless I do a lot of modification (width reduction).

Its kind of funny. I have a friend who has a highly modified VW bug and AMC Gremlin. Between the two cars there might be 25 pounds of original material left. But they are both registered, licensed and insured. Yet if you want to start from scratch, using production parts it can be very difficult. I know there are reasons both good and bad for this.

Maybe I will have to put a set of bicycle pedals on it go for a moped instead

 

Heres mine 1934 Morgan Super Sports , Barrel back, found it after waiting 38 years , got home from the war 1967 winter of 68 saw a Peter Sellers movie " The Party " He was driving a mog 3 wheeler and I flipped.. 38 years later , landed one that's about 7 years ago

 

Wlecome to you Noodles.Nice Mog!

 

cool, when can we go for a ride?

 

Lost, go and google "Idaho DMV custom car". You should be able to find their regulations. I did that for Al., Ga. and Tx. and found theirs.

 

Miss Bacfire at Prescott.Stefan pic...

 

GN. Vincent pic...

 

More GN from Vincent

 

Marc pic...

 

M arc pic...

 

Morgan at Brooklands

 

So easy to start,even a woman can do it ! Marc pic...

 

I love Miss Backfire

 

1935 Fiat AC. GL pic...

 

I really like that low-slung stance.

Would this be an AC 2-litre six in a Fiat chassis? It seems odd from a modern perspective, with Fiat twin-cams being shoehorned into everything and the rusty unibodies discarded.

 

I do not know.I think that it being at a VSCC event,it's unlikely that it is a modern motor.

 

The classic AC 2-litre six was made with barely any changes from 1922 to 1963. It was a neat OHC design of generally sporting character. Fiat sixes of the mid-thirties, on the other hand, seem to have been stodgy side-valve affairs. They made some good smaller chassis, though. A swap this way round would make sense.

In any event this one needs to go on the Specials thread, not only because it's a bit big for a cyclecar

 

Hello Ned,​

Maybe original FIAT engine was of GP type, quite expensive to use and especially to rebuilt after braking? Or was sold for some reason? … and, replaced by cheaper but good AC!

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A lot of cars shown here do not belong to cycle-cars, but they are cute. Not only specials (racers, hot-sports and so on), but ordinary sport cars too: Salmson, Amilcar, Derby... all from very popular 1100 class (most of them French). They have four-cylinder automobile water-cooled engines (some superchargers, too), automobile gear-boxes, propeller-shafts and differentials, brakes on all four wheels and so on... Some GN specials have more power and are faster - but LOOK as cycle-cars.

However, that class of 1100 cc sport cars are really magnificent, and probably the best balance of look, performance, weight, power - and price! Most of cycle-car's owners should dream about them, in vintage era! Today, we love them too... (most of us)... For me, in front of them are only British sport-cars of around three-quarter liter capacity!

Ciao, Zoran​

 

1927 C6 vintage Revival Montlhery pic...

 

GL pic...

 

Hello,
Could this be recreation of Bolster Brother's first special from school days, maybe never built in such form by John and Richard? (Attached photo)
Of course, it was named "Bloody Mary" by Richard as schoolboy-designer... (attached plan)
Or it is one of many re-incarnation of later famous special? In any case, long, succesful and rich life of cute small DIY racer!

Ciao, Zoran