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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bigcheese327, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. banjeaux bob
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    Salmson somewhere in OZ. Robin pic...
     

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    Salmson with an aero engine. Marc pic...
     

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  3. fur biscuit
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    just harboring a guess and going with the only silly single cylinder car with no gas pedal. :D
     
  4. UKAde
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  5. Anybody have any more details on the Neander cars?
    I would LOVE a tilting three wheeler.

    I bought the book, but it's thin on information.
     
  6. UKAde
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    The news today is I have had to sell the chater lea cyclecar to finance the jappic build but I did manage to drive it this summer which was great fun , and the chater lea will still be going to the vintage revival in France in April ,
    The jappic also has an invite to this , so need to get my finger out
     
  7. banjeaux bob
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    Didn't take you long to make a deal Ade.
     
  8. onelung
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    1909: a good vintage.
     

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  9. banjeaux bob
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    Thanks! So,what is the building?
     
  10. Kume
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    I have always loved the sizaire front suspension - would look interesting grafted to the front of a T speedster
     
  11. onelung
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    Leonards Mill Restaurant, Second Valley.
    A one-time flour mill - long long ago.
    The Sizaire front suspension, Kume, is a direct copy of that fitted to the Decauville voiturette (as opposed to a cycle car, voiture, voiture legere or voiturelle). And on the less than billiard table smooth road one hardly realises that it has any suspension at all :eek:
     
  12. Kume
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    That bad Huh :D

    apologies for being off topic.
     

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  13. banjeaux bob
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    Kume,that is one of our favorite cyclecar images on this thread...
     
  14. onelung
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    I tend to think of it as one of my favourite voiturette images...;)
     
  15. stankoprowski
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    I'm not familiar with Neader but Google images has some cars called Neader.

    Stan
     
  16. banjeaux bob
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    Lung,quit being so picky! ;}
     
  17. banjeaux bob
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    Lombard. Marc pic...
     

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  18. banjeaux bob
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    Anybody have any ideas?
     

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  19. fur biscuit
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    what is the displacement of your Sizaire?
     
  20. Ned Ludd
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    Cursory investigation suggests that this is an SB electric, German, c.1919. The marque was later absorbed by DKW.
     
  21. onelung
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    1.6 litres ... 120 x 140
    There are 5 such motors here in Australia - from 4 cars, ie there's one lucky owner who has a spare.
    In NSW there's a car with a 120 x 130 donk ... 1.3 litres.
    One of the 1.6 cars is virtually only half a car as it is lacking the entire rear axle/transmission assembly. It'll be many years before that's a runner as the owner is working overseas. One suggestion, though, to at least get it on the road could be to fit a back axle from another (any other) car.
    One of the Victorian cars was fitted at one stage with what we call a "joey box" - a modern sliding pinion gearbox. That item has subsequently been removed and the car is now in very original mechanical specs.
    All Aussie Sizaires are running the original and ultra basic carburetion, which consists of nothing more than a fixed jet in a venturi (updraft) - and a spring loaded flapper valve which admits extra air on the intake stroke. To my knowledge, all 3 Sizaires in the US have been fitted with "modern" (vintage) carbies - and I know of at least 3 Sizaires in europe which have had the same treatment.
     

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  22. Kume
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    There is a 1910 sizaire in a small museum in the Bay of Islands her in NZ.
     

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  23. banjeaux bob
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    So,how many Sizarres are known to exist?




     
  24. banjeaux bob
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    Ade pic...
     

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  25. lokrij
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    Bob, do you have any more information on that cyclecar? Is that a wooden frame I spy?
     
  26. banjeaux bob
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    No,it's just a picture I stole from ADE.He got it from archive.He also did not give any info.I looked at it briefly,and yes it looks like a wood frame.

    Take a look at the front frame rails,looks like dimensional lumber.
     
  27. banjeaux bob
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    Ade pic...
     

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  28. onelung
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    Pete's Pioneer Museum, Keri Keri: that car and its one-time garage companion are interesting.
    The Keri Keri car is a 4 cylinder engine (very likely built by Ballot, believe it or not...) in a single cylinder chassis.
    The companion vehicle (Auckland) is a single cylinder Sizaire engine in what is almost certainly a 4 cylinder chassis.
    Ideally, the now owners of the two vehicles "should" swap engines, but I doubt that will happen.
    There survive around 32 to 34 Sizaire "monos" of which I am aware.
     

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  29. banjeaux bob
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    thanks for the Sizarre information.Very lovey vehicles.
     
  30. banjeaux bob
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    Sunbeam Mabley Cycle Car
     

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