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Projects Kurt’s Puddle Jumper - 1930 Model A Extended-Cab Pickup Build

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by rgclouse, Aug 12, 2016.

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  1. rgclouse
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    I apologize for wasting all of your time. I took another look at the spindle lock situation. Trying to insert from the front would not even start in. Tried the BFH and it started in. A few more whacks and it when in all the way. Must have been paint buildup inside the hole. Now have one side the way it is supposed to be. 105 views of the post and no one suggested the BFH?

    Still looking for comments on Gibbs/Paint.
     
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  2. rgclouse
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    Finally got back to work for a few hours today. Screwed up my back somehow, so had to rest it.

    Got the gas tank cowl top cut up and some initial cleanup on it.
    324 090720 Gas tank & cowl cut and initial cleanup.jpg
    Looks like it was a pretty good tank inside.
    326 090720 Gas tank & cowl cut - inside.jpg
    Saved a few parts from the tank if anyone wants them for the price of postage.
    327 090720 Gas tank leftover parts.jpg
     
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    Ideally with the full weight of car on the springs, your shocks should mount at the half way point in their range of travel .Further, the top and bottom shock eyes should line up parallel. It has been my experience that you cannot have "too much" suspension travel.
     
  4. rgclouse
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    Still working, just have not caught up on posting. Up in MN retrieving daughters car which will donate an engine and tranny. Holding off building upper shock mounts till have engine installed to see ride height.
     
  5. rgclouse
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    Been too long since an update. Been doing a lot of work, but have not taken the time to document the progress. Bionic woman required some maintenance the last 2 months. I just looked at my calendar and see between her and myself, we have had 35 medical appointments.

    Been working on building framework to mount underdash brake pedal and cowl steering box.

    357 100220 Steering and Brake Pedal mockup.jpg

    Took a week off to go retrieve my daughters donor car..

    360 101120 Donor Vehicle Loaded Up.jpg
    Had not run for 11 years so spent a day getting it running before pulling the donor engine and transmission.
    361 101320 Donor engine and trans out on body cart.jpg 361 101320 Donor engine and trans out on body cart.jpg
    Have a few more hours work on the pedal framework before I can pull out the firewall and test fit the engine. Then on to build mounts.
     
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  6. I just found this thread...fun read. Keep up the good work!

    Any help out there for @rgclouse on how to prep Gibbs coated raw metal for paint? I too would like to hear about the process.
     
  7. rgclouse
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    364 110420 Transmission and Brake pedal close fit.jpg Taking the morning off from working in the garage to catch up on posting. I finished the underdash work needed to pull the firewall and test fit the engine. A few things were readily apparent.
    374 110420 She finally has an engine.jpg
    A lot of the work on the pedal assembly mount was going to have to be redone and the brake pedal was too close the the transmission. No room for a gas pedal. Will have to notch the front crossmember for the crank pulley and work on a couple of other tight spots.
    370 110420 Temp engine mounts.jpg

    Built some temporary front engine mounts. Planning on building side mounts.



    375 110420 Stance improved with engine and transmission.jpg
    The stance of the truck is much improved now that it has the weight of the engine and transmission.

    386 112420 Brake and steering box relocated left.jpg 387 112420 Brake and steering box relocated left.jpg


    Got to work and redid the brake pedal framework moving the brake arm to the left of the steering column. Piece of flat bar in picture is temporary, need to get more 3/8 inch stock.
    388 112620 Steering column mount.jpg 389 112620 Steering column mount installed.jpg

    Being cheap, I built a mount for the steering column rather then buy one. Not bad for using a drill press, hole saws, and an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel, but at my age, I decided I should not invest $$$ in tools.

    392 112620 Begin layout steering arm.jpg 393 112620 Steering arm Drilled and tapped.jpg 395 112820 Steering arm shapped and temp fit.jpg 396 112820 Steering arm shapped and temp fit.jpg

    Next up was to manufacture a steering arm for the cowl steering. Again, not bad for using a drill press, hole saws, angle grinder with a cutoff wheel, and tap. Still needs a bit more grinding to finish it off. Can now measure to order the drag link tube.
    364 110420 Transmission and Brake pedal close fit.jpg 374 110420 She finally has an engine.jpg 370 110420 Temp engine mounts.jpg 375 110420 Stance improved with engine and transmission.jpg 386 112420 Brake and steering box relocated left.jpg 387 112420 Brake and steering box relocated left.jpg 388 112620 Steering column mount.jpg 389 112620 Steering column mount installed.jpg 392 112620 Begin layout steering arm.jpg 393 112620 Steering arm Drilled and tapped.jpg 395 112820 Steering arm shapped and temp fit.jpg 396 112820 Steering arm shapped and temp fit.jpg
     
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    Sorry for the double posting of pictures. Don't know how that happened.
     
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    Hello neighbor. Jasper tn here. She's looking good.
     
  10. rgclouse
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    Thank you WTF really for the encouragement.
     
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    Worked all week getting the engine in final position. Decided I needed to move it back to have room in front for a fan. Had to notch the firewall for room for the distributor. Hand rolled the insert around my argon tank.
    397 120920 Begin notch firewall for distributor.jpg
    398 121020 Begin notch firewall for distributor.jpg
    401 121120 Notched firewall for distributor.jpg
    402 121120 Notched firewall for distributor.jpg 404 121120 Notched firewall for distributor - need to grind inside angle.jpg
    I don't think I did too bad for welding 16 gauge metal. Need to do some more grinding on the inside edges. Anyone have a tricks for cleaning up these welds?

    405 121120 Notched firewall for distributor.jpg
    Not that you can really see the welds very much behind the distributor. Now I have to get back to making the engine and trans mounts.
     
  12. rgclouse
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    Back to work on the A this week after the holidays. Santa came late to TN with parts for steering and to plumb the brakes.
    406 011321 Santa came late - Steering & Brake Parts.jpg 407 011321 Santa came late -Brake Bulkhead fittings and Hardware.jpg
    Been working on building side motor mounts. Could probably have bought some easier, but what's the fun in that.
    Not proud of my welds. Need to get back into practice. 410 011421 First side motor mount done, pieces cut for 2nd.jpg 411 011421 Pass side motor mount installed.jpg
    Got passenger side done and parts cutout for drivers side. Need to get some 2 1/4 inch grade 8 bolts. 2 inches is too short, and 2 1/2 is too long.

    Next up finish drivers side. Then on to trans mount and then back to steering and brakes. Have steel coming today to start building floors and bulkhead.
     
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    Drivers side motor mount completed.
    414 011821 Driver side motor mount complete.jpg
    Temporary mounts removed and new mounts holding engine.
    415 011821 Front Motor Mounts Complete and Hold Weight.jpg
     
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    Took way to long, but got transmission mount built and installed. Decided to notch the back side of the crossmember for some more u-joint clearance. 416 012221 Transmission mount ready to weld to crossmember.jpg

    417 012221 Ccrossmember notched for ujoint clearance.jpg 418 012221 Transmission mount & crossmember ready to reinstall.jpg 419 012221 Transmission mount installed.jpg

    Installed a wooden driveshaft, LOL. Just to help see clearance needed for building floor. 421 012221 Wooden driveshaft.jpg
     
  15. rgclouse
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    It Steers! Been working this week finishing up steering. Got sidetracked for a day and a half with battery problems in the OT stablemate of the Model A. Replaced the battery 10 days ago and wife tried to start it and its dead. Spent a day searching for a parasitic drain before deciding to replace the battery again. So far, so good.

    New smaller steering wheel give clearance getting in and out. Not sure if I will shorten the steering column somemore or not.
    422 012821 It Steers - New Steering Wheel.jpg

    Still need to finish welding bung in steering arm. Will not install safety wire on the bolts on steering arm until after teardown and painting.
    423 012821 It Steers.  Still need to final weld bung.jpg

    I'm not sure if I'm just lucky or I planned perfectly, but wheels turned to full stop have 1/16 inch clearance from tire to drag link. These are just rollaround tires, so final tires may be narrower. Also, steering arm and tie rod end just clear the cowl sheet metal at full stop.
    424 012821 Tight clearance at full stop.jpg

    Next up start work on floor and brake plumbing.
     
  16. rgclouse
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    Time for my weekly (or so) progress update, but I noticed this thread has been viewed over 1500 times since the last person commented. Really, I can take criticism or praise or should I not continue to post?

    Thank you brEad, WTF really, nunattax, fauj, Just Gary, Jrs50, and kidcampbell71 for the "Likes". I think I may need new glasses since I never noticed the likes listed in small type at the end of my posts.

    Worked this week on framework to hold the floor and rear bulkhead. Some will say it is overkill, but since there was nothing between the frame rails left of the body, and the ladder bars stickup to high, the floor is really suspended from the middle bulkhead support.
    425 012921 Main braces for bulkhead fitted.jpg

    Just tack welding everything together for now till it is all fitted.
    428 020321 Passenger side framing fitted.jpg

    Cutout templates for the bulkhead and front floor. Front floor will be dropped about an inch to increase foot room.

    Time for a question. I have sheets of 2 feet by 4 feet 16 GA. The bulkhead is 50 inches wide if extended against the inside of the quarter panels. How do others usually seal off the ends of the bulkhead?

    I could fit a wing on each side to the inside of the quarter panel and overlap the large bulkhead sheet an inch of 2 and then use aluminum sticky tape to seal to the quarter panel.
    431 020421 Bulkhead templete.jpg 432 020421 Passenger floor template.jpg

    Picked up some steel Friday to cobble together a sheet metal brake to bend the bulkhead and floor pieces. Will post pictures when I get it together.
     
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    Don't worry about the comments , you're being watched and you're doing a great job! I like how you are making that bulkhead! I am doing something similar except I am making my bulkhead removable because that's how I am going to install the fuel tank. I'm at the same point as you , I'm not sure how to seal off the ends of the bulkhead. I will likely make some bent panels that match the curve of the cab and extend them to the B post and either roll some beads in them or just glue some upholstery material to them.
     
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    Really nice work!
     
  19. Ha. Instead of bogging up a thread with my commentary, I choose to declare jihad on the "like" button, instead.

    I saw my name typed above, so here I is. :cool:

    Brief note : You have 18k people as viewers. Pretty dang' good, me thinks. Carry on, please !!

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    Jethro, I'm also thinking of making it removable as I'm getting too old to crawl around trying to plumb a fuel pump, fuel tank, rear brakes and wire the battery and fuel pump which all will be just behind the bulkhead. Likewise, the front part of the floor will be removable.

    Sorry for rilling (sp?) anyone up. Its just like speaking to someone, if they don’t nod their head or say something, you don’t know if they are hearing you.
     
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    I realized one of the reasons I said something about lake of comments. I'm lonely. Other then the bionic woman (my wife if you have never read the whole thread due to a hip and 2 shoulders replaced), I hardly talk to anyone since Covid began. Got first dose of vaccine on Friday, so hopefully things will get better.

    Some progress on sheet metal brake. Got steel cut to size yesterday and started drilling holes. Had to dig out my old cheap portable drill press to drill the holes in the I beam of my work table (made from half of my frame table). Heavy duty table makes a good mount for the brake.
    433 020721 Had to use the old cheap portable drill press.jpg
    Next need to cut the slots for the hinge tubes (one marked out on left of previous pic).

    434 020721 Cheap metal brake first progress.jpg

    Have to weld up some big wingnuts and sharpen the bottom edge of the clamp. Can't forget to build some arms. All that will have to wait till Tuesday. Have to take the bionic woman in for a lube and oil change tomorrow (just normal maint.).
     
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  22. @rgclouse I try not to clutter up a great thread with too many posts that don’t have helpful info. I have yet to build my first hotrod so mostly all I have to offer are “atta boys” but I am really enjoying following your progress.
     
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    Took both Tuesday and Weds, but slots cut and hinges welded on.

    435 020921 Slots cut for hinges.jpg

    After tack welding hinges, brake turned just fine. After half final welding them I had trouble getting it to swing down to horizontal, just 5-10 degrees shy. Ground, ground, ground for a couple of hours getting clearance and now works fine.

    437 021021 Hinges welded - first test bend.jpg

    Found some old heavy tubing from an old tow bar with a 7/8 inch ID and some 7/8 OD tubing to make handles. Caliper says both 7/8, but took an hour grinding and sanding to get the one to slip into the other. Have to do the second handle tomorrow. Setup a piece of scrap 16 GA for a test run.

    438 021021 Hinges welded - first test bend.jpg

    Not a very sharp bend, but good enough for what I need and I have not yet ground the clamp bar edge flat yet.

    439 021021 First test bend - tight enough bend.jpg

    Goal for tomorrow is finish the 2nd handle, weld up big wingnuts, and grind the clamp edge flat.
     
  24. The sheet metal brake looks nice and stout. Are you going to add any additional support to the clamping angle iron?
     
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    Goals for today accomplished. brEad, short answer is yes, see later in post.
    Second handle and wingnuts completed.
    440 021121 Large wing nuts and 2nd handle ready to weld.jpg 442 021121 Wingnut detail - setup for first real bend.jpg

    Ground lower edges of clamp down a bit. Can still grind some more. Setup and tried first real bend.
    441 021121 Ready to try a real bend.jpg

    Result. Did not want a 90 degree, but angle on gauge. Pretty close.
    444 021121 First real bend .jpg

    I will have to add reinforcement to the clamp angle. Got deflection on the far side of the sheet, but not enough to ruin the sheet. I have seen reinforcement inside the angle and with a truss on top with an adjustment bolt. Will have to get some more steel. I seem to have plenty of short pieces, but not 4 foot or larger pieces.

    I realized I never said why I made the brake 4 foot wide. I have a few 4 foot sheets I want to bend. After those are done, I may shorten the brake.
     
  26. rgclouse
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    Got truss cut and tacked in place.
    445 021221 Brace fitted and tack welded.jpg

    Truss would have been much easier to bend if I was too cheap to invest in a torch. $200 for a torch I can handle, but $800 for tanks is ridiculous. Had to breakout my long arm. A 6 foot length of pipe that I slip over the end of a breaker bar for really stubborn bolts.
    446 021221 My really long arm.jpg
    Closeup
    447 021221 Brace bending in vise.jpg

    Also made up some depth adjusters for the clamp. Need to get some 7/16-20 bolts and nuts.
    449 021221 Clamp depth adjuster .jpg
     
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    Make that "not to cheap"
     
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  28. Holy sh*t !!! 1000 dollars ??

    Have you a HVAC supply house near you ?? United Refrigeration is one I use. For work.

    Oxy/acetylene rig, with tanks is a fifth of that cost. Yes, I get it .. the larger tanks may very well be more money .. .. but no way in Hell THAT MUCH MORE $$$.

    Call whoever is local to you.
     
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    Yes, I could get a small Oxy/acetylene rig for less then $1000. I think you can get a small portable setup for under $300 (not sure if that is with full tanks). $1000 was based on the estimate I got 6-7 years ago when I bought my Miller MIG and C25 tank. The C25 tank was about $350.

    I thought about getting an Oxy/acetylene rig back then but decided to wait till I really needed one. I found it was really few and far between times when I thought if I had one I would have reached for it. All most all my cutting has been with a cutoff wheel in an angle grinder. Much cleaner cuts then I made 60 years ago with a cutting torch.

    Also, I decided last year when I turned 77 I was going to limit my tool buying to essentials only. No sons and none of my grandsons are interested in cars, so I don't have anyone to leave tools to.
     
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    Short day today. Cut some angle out of scrape 2 inch square tubing to reinforce the clamp bar. Taking the rest of the weekend off to watch racing at Daytona on TV.

    Attended about 32 of the first 50 Daytona 500's. First time in 1963. I think 2012 was the last. I decided giving them 2% of my retirement income was too much and they wanted it 11 months in advance. We parked a MH in the West Lot (turn 1). Started as free, then $20, $30, ... over $500 at the end. Final straw was when they tried to ban dogs in the MH lot (I think they relaxed this after I quit going).
     

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