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  1. sir
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    I FOUND THESE IN THE BACK OF A DELAPADATED BARN UNDER A OIL SOAKED CANVIS,the bolt pattern is 5 on 5 1/2, my question is how do I tell if there ford or chevrolet or ? the hub cap aera is bigger than a ford...
     
  2. lowsquire
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    pics or a more accurate description would help here..
    5 1/2 pattern was common on dodge/plymouth .. are they wires, or solids? did the canvas smell good? is the barn fixable?
    :)
     
  3. sir
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    can't get the pictures to down load...i'll try again later...
     
  4. sir
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    Pictures..
     

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  5. 32-3 WINDOW
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    old ford wires do you know the dia/ tire size
     
  6. big bad john
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    ......5 x5 one half are also ford rims.........pictures would help
     
  7. big bad john
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    .....1935 ford pickup rims?
     
  8. They sure look like the good old bent spoke Kelsey-Hayes,,good score. HRP
     
  9. cant you tell if the spokes are in the inner rim or not? i have a set of non bent spoke 16' wires and the inner rim does not need rim linners since the spokes are not visable inside the rim. i was told this means its not a factory wheel but for ford none the less?
     
  10. tommy
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    If the Ford hub cap is too small, they could be Packard wheels. Still 5 1/2" bolt pattern but they use a larger cap. I don't know the diameters. I'm not even sure what year and model Packard. The cap that fits had a red hexagon recess in the center.
     
  11. espo35
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    1962/1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster wires is my guess. The center cap should have a 3-spoke knockoff.
     
  12. i thought the kelsey hayes style wheels that had the bigger cap was dodge?
     
  13. They sure don,t look like 16 inch. Whats the total diameter ?
     
  14. povertyflats
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    I'll bet those are 17 inch and Mopar. My 33 Plymouth had some just like that.
     
  15. i agree with povertyflats up there^
     
  16. mike hamel
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    Iv got one of those wheels, it's a 17" wire although i believe it's an early 30's studebaker wheel. Remember it's a 5x5.5 bolt pattern. There was a thread earlier that we determined what this exact wheel was. I can't remember for sure but correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  17. mike hamel
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    Plymouths never had 5x5.5 bolt pattern.
     
  18. The37Kid
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    What is the diameter on the hub cap hole? I think I have a pair like them.They are not Ford wheels.
     
  19. chaddilac
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    But chrysler did! I had a stock 30 sedan with 5x5.5 hubs.
     
  20. The37Kid
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    That makes sence, years ago a friend had a '31 Chrysler with 16 inch Ford wires.:)
     
  21. mike hamel
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    Yes chryslers did! I was just talking about plymouths.....
     
  22. mike hamel
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    The hubcap hole is approximately 6.5" wide.
     
  23. sir
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    these wheels are 16" X 4" - 5" ON 5 1/2" the cap opening is 7" other pictures can be made available...
     
  24. sir
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    so what make are they, packard, chrysler, henway....if i'm going to sell them i gotta know.....
     
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  27. Wolfman1
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    The t-bird wheels are 14" and the bolt pattern is 5 x 4 1/2
     
  28. sir
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    ok...one more time..16" x 4" - 5" on 5 1/2" cap aera is 7"- what did these come off of......there not ford,or chevrolet...
     

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  29. 302GMC
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    Early - mid '30s Chrysler
     

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