Man,I thought I would never say this,but after lurking on the "other" site,I can see why people hate the term "Ratrod" so much.It has become a generic term,used to describe anything with flat paint,some pinstriping,and some painted stock steels.It's become a joke.Now mind you,I never considered anything I owned a ratrod,but I knew that some people actually had a clue.Hell,I don't even consider what half the people call a ratrod to be a ratrod.I see a lot of hotrods,and customs,but no ratrods.I now see ratrod as a derogatory term.Let's break down the word shall we:Ratrod consists of two words,Rat and Rod.Now,Rat could be short for Ratty,but in both cases it's a negative thing.Rat is defined by a few meanings,one being a disease infested dirty vermin,the other being a snitch.Neither one of those are great meanings,both very negative.And ratty,well,ratty means beat up,haggard,decrepit,run down,and dilapidated.See,neither one of those is good.Then you have Rod,as in hot rod,which is not even on the same side of the spectrum as Ratty or Rat,so it's an oxymoron. Now,I see a lot of cars being built safely,and then left unpainted to rust.Here's what I don't understand about that:If you're going to put all that work in to something to make it function safely,then why neglect something like painting the body to protect your investment?Why leave it to rust just so you have to do all that work again?I don't see the point in that.Slap some damn primer on it at least.What most people fail to realize about letting the body rust is that the rust is damaging a vital part to the vehicles structural integrity,the body.You ride inside the body,do you really want to ride in something that became paper thin because you thought the "patina" would make your car look cool?Sorry,but that cool rust that turns in to rot won't save your ass when you get in to an accident and the car that hit you tears through your car like a hot Ginsu through butter. Also,I hate seeing people use shit on a vehicle that was never intended to be on a vehicle,like saw blades or wrenches as tie rods or bones or steering linkage on cowl steering.Wake up,that shit wasn't meant for that kind of stress,and by using bullshit like that,not only are you putting yourself and the people that ride in your car at risk,but also the people around like other drivers and pedestrians when that shit decides to give out or fall off. I'm also tired of seeing half assed weld jobs and fabrication jobs from people building shit but have never welded before in their life..Take your time people,don't rush shit,the project isn't going anywhere.Did you know that if you do shoddy workmanship and sell the vehicle,and the person who bought it from you gets injured because of your half assed,cut corners workmanship,they can sue the high hell out of you.Welcome to California's Lemon Law. Speaking of cut corners,one thing that bothered me was shit like the other sites' "Under $3000" club.What is the point?To see who could build a car for under three grand?What I see is people cutting corners on builds to make that under 3K mark,which most of the time ends up in unsafe builds.I'm not a traditionalist by any means,but this shit all bothers me,and the one post on KB that made me think about this was the following: i.abomination's Avatar i.abomination i.abomination is offline Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: DeRidder, LA Posts: 36 Default Metric or not, what's important is if looks cool. I don't even give a **** about safety, as long as it looks badass, sounds loud, and goes fast haha If I ever ran in to this guy,I would lay five across the mouth for that,because obviously the jackass thinks it's okay to build something unsafe as long as it looks cool,even though it could kill him or people around him. Just had to get this shit off my chest and out somewhere where I could rant.