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Technical ***June 2017 Banger Meet - 4 Pistons and 4 Million Mosquitos***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, May 31, 2017.

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  1. Jiminy
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    Here is the banger link list:

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.fordgarage.com/

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/
     
  2. Binger
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    Thank you Jim for starting the Banger meet thread every month. I am getting excited for the Dirt Drags this weekend in Colorado. Hope to see some of the Banger meet guys there.
     
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  3. denis4x4
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    Just got the Weber on the B with a CRAGAR head yesterday and will drive it to lunch today. Still a few linkage issues that I need to sort out. BTW, posted the Stromberg-Bendix intake with a Ford logo Holley in the classifieds the other day.
     
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  4. johnneilson
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    But Honey, it just followed me home...............
     
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  5. Bluto
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    John.... I remember saying that several times in the past. Zofia never asks ...... Perhaps that was a clue to marry here! OK June is button out all over.....
     
  6. johnneilson
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    I had to explain the first time I brought home an old chassis, this is not an old piece of s#!t.
    It is a canvas with potential and opportunity!!
    If after building, a race car doesn't perform or handle, then it is a Piece of s#!t !!
    Tracy has never asked since, she has seen enough leave on trailers.

    The '27 T roadster body has taken up room in the shop for quite a while, now a chassis to use.

    J
     
  7. waxhead
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    Denis, more pics required :)
     
  8. denis4x4
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    Can't figure out why I didn't put a Weber on this 5 years ago! Runs strong and no hesitation. IMG_0255.JPG
     
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    Looks like a friend will have 6-8 A engines for sale in the southern Connecticut/New York area if anyone needs a core to rebuild. Bob
     
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  11. Bluto
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    Denis

    Maybe a good coat of bronzing wax and a more tradition air cleaner would overcome the "new" I used lot of Weber carbs on my projects. The do work well.

    The earliest Webers were bronze Post war they were often costed in a sort of powder blue. Frank Griswald in New Your imported many differing styles including up and side draft models. Inside the have very modern AV chokes and jets. Very "Q-SHIP" too.

    Just an idea.:)



     
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  12. jim1932
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    Probably the same reason you didn't put a Chevy in it... Newer stuff runs better and easier older stuff is cooler always a balance in there somewhere.
     
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  13. Alright, sign me up. I just got this nice l'il '31 Model A...

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    Stock banger runs like a top. Not planning to do much right off the bat, but I'll do a lot of reading/research and make some decisions. Will likely warm up the motor a bit as time goes on. I do plan to put some bias plys back on and may lower it some, beyond that who knows. I'm sure I'll have questions.
     
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  14. Nice A there.....check....
     
  15. noboD
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    June already? Binger, we will be passing through your neighborhood in a few weeks. Not sure of exact date, will call your Mom and let her know when we get close.
     
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  16. MJW
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    1. PA. NJ. local HAMBERS group

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  17. V4F
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    we are building a similar car (channeled , sectioned) 2 door . yours looks really good .
     
  18. MJW
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    Nice. It's running good with the replacement motor and the mag. The mag really likes high RPM and with the b grind cam it's really a blast off the line and through 2nd gear. Thanks

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  20. Binger
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    Great we will. We will be glad to see you. Hope I'm no working the day you are in Town. Any time after 4 is good.


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  21. Took a 530 mile drive by myself from Millbrae to Santa Maria last weekend in my Model A banger powered cabriolet. Almost uneventful, 16 mpg going down, a pint of oil for the trip, and fifty mph including two stops going down. I did lose about 50 ounces of water each way. I retorqued the head before returning. The block weeps a little from a couple hairline cracks in the water jackets and maybe some from the head gasket. It was my first longish road trip with the car. The water temperature never got to more than 180.

    I have a Weber carb, and when it is warm, it has a tendency to die at stop signs. My cure has been to pull out the choke when getting near stop signs and lights. Any easy adjustments to cure an otherwise pretty good running motor? A half turn on the idle screw did not make a difference. For regular around town driving, it does not die at stops. Thanks.
     
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  22. V4F
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    maybe on long trips it is boiling the fuel . maybe reroute the fuel line if near heat .
     
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  23. The37Kid
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    Thinking about buying that barn load of A engines, what would most guys pay for an unknown as is core engine head to pan? Bob
     
  24. V4F
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    the problem I have encountered is most "A" blocks are cracked . pressure testing is the way to be sure . if you get the lot , don't put $$$ in one until tested ...........
     
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  26. Of course, after all that tedium, why not have a bottle of wine and doodle some more?

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  27. Better. Cleaned up carb orientation, lowered gas tank and added a the brake lever. The image is done backwards. Always seem to draw using this layout, I like to see my exhaust so I just slap it in, even though in reality it would be on the other side.

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  28. The37Kid
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    If you like the intake and exhaust on that side you could turn the T engine 180 degrees and whip up a FWD setup. Just trying to be of help. Bob
     
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  29. It is logical!

     

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