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Technical July Banger Independence

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jiminy, Jul 2, 2014.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
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    Here is the banger link list .

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:http://www.fordgarage.com/

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensionshttp://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=6

    Model B rod bearing insert numbershttp://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gaugehttp://www.centuryperformance.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

    Elrod's stuck head tech:http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

    Chevy Banger Stuffhttp://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/The-High-Speed-Internal-Combustion-Engine-Ricardo-1931

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamberhttp://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

    Maybe these links should be posted early in each months meeting.

    If anyone knows of more, please post them.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226
     
  2. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    All in for July!
     
  3. Crazydaddyo
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    Thanks for the link.

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  4. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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    Hot Dog!!
     
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  5. Lordy- less than a month and I'm back in the classroom!
     
  6. Reddy
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
    Posts: 149

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    Crazydaddyo,
    What spark plugs are you running in your winfield head ?
    Mike
     
  7. Crazydaddyo
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    I'm running a Weiand head now and I run NGK BP6HS or Autolite 4123 or 275. I like the NGK plugs best as they seem to run cleaner.

    The Winfield heads I have also have 14mm thread plugs. I would run the same plugs in those too. I have run Champion plugs, but I've had quality issues so I stopped running them.

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  8. Reddy
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
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    Thank you,
    I'll try the NGK's Mike
     
  9. Banger news this month - nigh on a thousand miles touring Wales last week finishing up racing on Pendine Sands for two days. Nearly 5mph off my record but still sneaked the V4F/R class win...
     
  10. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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    Mac, is the youknowwhat running yet?
     
  11. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
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    July..........already?
    damn, Bonneville is just a month away.
     
  12. Wobbly video from me… small tripod and camera mounted to the screen post.
    This was the last run of the day on the Sunday just a shade under 70 - my slowest run yet. Obviously I recorded it to make sure I tried harder next year!
     
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  13. Ok, I know not traditional in any way in in the HAMB way but has anyone tried a small turbo on a ford A or B Banger? Looking at running a small diesel turbo with a standard 125 over A with a side valve low compression standard head (have a very late A diamond 1948 head) should work well together.
    Upside down intake/exhaust, with just inserts mains/rods.
    Everyone just runs twin 97s, that sort of thing,,,,how about holley 350 with a T25, T4 or equivalent smaller turbo?
    Should go ok
     

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  14. 97
    Joined: May 18, 2005
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    A mate here inNew Zealand has been running a turbo for years, engine is otherwise stock.
    He is selling the car now after 25 years
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=742164449

     
  15. denis4x4
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    I ran the original Mooneyes EFI and it was OK....however, it prevented me from running sanctioned hill climbs MVC-004F.JPG
     
  16. Well then! I guess it's just my age. It has taken me a couple of months to get the patience to figure out this new HAMB site. I'm subscribed... But, I know who I am; I'm not sure where I am!!
     
  17. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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    Hey ……. I remember you…….
     
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  19. Well, yeah, I think I can remember you! Didn't you escape through the Iron Curtain the wrong way?

    JK
     
  20. Hey guys, I picked this up today.....

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    How'd I do? Does it look to be in good shape? What do I need to look for?

    I also picked up what looks to be a near-mint B cam. So, with a Mallory dual-point, Burns intake, dual 94s, and the parts above, what else do I need to hop up my Tudor mill? How will the stock exhaust work (at least until I can either find or build a header)?

    Thanks!
     
  21. denis4x4
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    Slick way to empty your gas tank. This was less than $15 and runs on two D batteries. image.jpg
     
  22. Pretty daring if that little motor has brushes, the one I had said not to use with gasoline because of brushes possibly arcing !
     
  23. Fellow Bangers! I am embarking on my first banger build for my early 31 Tudor. I have been collecting parts for the better part of 2 years and I believe I'm getting really close to what I need to get started.

    I currently have:
    2 complete engine/transmission assemblies
    1 engine (engine number is original to my Tudor - frame number matches)
    Burns 2x2 aluminum intake
    SEVERAL Holley 94s (will have 2 built by dickster)
    Mallory dual-point distributor
    Ford "B" police head
    Ford "B" camshaft

    Where would you seasoned veterans recommend that I start?

    I was thinking that I could disassemble both blocks and use the best of either one. Both have been rebuilt at some point. The one that came with the car, I believe, was rebuilt in the early 90's but has very few miles in that it was never tagged for street use. The other came in a rolling chassis. Its head is red with a green block and there is some sort of black "sealant" running down from the head/block mating surface. I do know that I want to lighten one of the flywheels.

    Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
     
  24. jambottle
    Joined: Apr 11, 2003
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    I`m replying to this thread because that is proably the only way i will ever find it again.
     
  25. Not one but two reverse cam four bangers at Pendine…

     
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  26. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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    The video's privacy settings are on…………..
     
  27. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    What Bluto said ^^^^^^^^^^
     
  28. Changed… came all the way from Swizterland.
     
  29. Sounds like a plan, other than the lightened flywheel I think I would stick to one carb untill you install larger intake valves and a stronger cam and a little higher compression head.
     
  30. The plan is to do all those...5.2 head, B cam, flywheel, intake, carbs.....The only thing I'm not doing (at least not at first) is larger valves. The big restriction, according to my reading, is the stock intake. By installing the Burns unit, I'll eliminate THAT restriction. We'll see how it goes.

    Thanks for the input!
     

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