Technical ***July 2024 Banger Meet Thread - Already?***

Link to previous month: June 2024 Banger Meet

Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
Stay safe.

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
email: [email protected]
phone: 951-695-7313.

A few links to speed equipment companies there may be more
https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts

Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:
http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
and this link shows the missing image from the above post
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:
http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:
http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

Chevy Banger Stuff
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm

 

Happy 1st of July

 

July 1.....Canada Day, gonna go for a banger ride. Getting ready for the dirt drags and reliability run at Rodtoberfest.
Warren

 

Had an emergency gallbladder operation and at 83, have decided to have a fire sale of parts & pieces along with the extended cab '29 CCPU. PM me if you're interested.

 

Any good pics of Seth's midget from the FAST event Saturday?

 

Hiya all.

Still freezing our butts off down under.

Picked up some more "to do" parts for the coupe.

I'm going to be busy when that "one day" arrives

 

I got these cams a while back in a lot of parts I bought. Does anyone know what they fit?

Mains are smaller than an A. Cam is longer than a A. They have a woodruff key for the gear. One is tapped on the end for a bolt and the other is not. No marks on them except for a 123 on one and a stamped B on the other.

Here’s a few pics, the last is an A cam next to one of the others.

 

Made it out to the FAST event, had a blast!
Hoping to have a car ready for next year.....

 

Thanks for the video, looks like some cool cars there!

 

Sorry to hear of your emergency, my wife had her Gall bladder out a number of years ago & it really gave her grief until it was out.

If you were closer I would know of a couple of young fella's needing some bit n bobs

 

I hope you’re on the mend, Denis.

 

Checking in on your special day. Sorry no Nathans for lunch today.

 

My little girl loves the model A, the noisier the better she says

 

Some day she is gonna kick you outa that right hand seat! You better frame that one and stick it on the wall for later.

 

That’s a fabulous portrait. Print and keep it close.

 

When people on here ask about the future of our hobby, bring up that picture.

 

GREAT VIDEO, RETSON! There should be another Santa Margarita even next year. If my brain can keep up with my tough; I' probably still be at the microphone!

 

Anyone here running a Holley Red pump? If so.... where did you stick it, under the frame or closer to the engine?

I need to pick up an electric pump and would like a period-correct one, but given the prices of the Autopulses I might go this route temporarily.

 

Thank you John, you did a terrific job behind the mic! I'll be heading to this next meeting on the 10th!

 

I'm currently diving more into the history behind George Riley and the stuff that he invented. I'm familiar with the two port and four port variations, and the multi lift stuff for the Model T.

The one thing I cant find any info on is the Geo. Riley Co. Model B side cover. Was there any history on it, or was it just something to sell?

Also, were there actual Riley manifolds produced or just repop stuff?

Thank you!

 

Yes, and stuck it under the floorboard on the frame.....but it is a late'31 so the gas shut off is under the hood.
From the gas shut off, down to the pump and back up again with refrigeration tubing. Feeds two '81's with no hick ups plus a buddy runs one that has worked well for him.
@J.Ukrop ran one (I believe in his version.1) with the shutoff in the cabin. A real sanitary installation

 

Reston, I have an ad where Riley mentions an intake manifold as part of a “kit” along with a flathead. No pics or other information.

 

I believe Rileys focus was on the Model A, but his heads also fit Model B engines. Look at the @RyanAK post and see the oil return tube on the A engine. 'Capping the well' was also Geo. Riley guidance for pressurizing a B engine and modifying the oil pump for more pressure and capacity. Charlie Yapp made an aluminum Riley fantasy B side cover and maybe this is what you are thinking of.....but it is conceivable Riley did and I am not aware of it.
However, he made a Riley embossed, cast iron, 1 1/4" intake for the flathead...and it was catalogued for $7.50
There was a reprint of a 1931 George Riley booklet "Building The 100 M.P.H. Model 'A' Ford" by Dan Indola in 1991
I don't know if it is still available...I currently have a copy that a buddy loaned me...

 

@winduptoy isn't that booklet included in the Riley book that he did? I'd have to go check my copy to be sure.

 

Years ago I picked up a copy of the "Riley Racing Scrapbook" by Mr. Iandola. As of right now, it may be part of my retirement fund as copies seem to be priced into the stratosphere!

We got some goodies for the speedster today, including floorboards and something a bit more fun.

Submitted Respectfully,

jason

 

Nothing more for sale as I’m putting the 29 CCPU back together. I put the T-5 in my A in 2002 using the Auto Restoration kit. Undoing the stuff in the AR kit has been a real challenge. I need to get some stuff at the Chevy to install the output snout and then I’ll be ready to put the new engine in.

 

Good news in my mind Denis....go man go!

@studebakerjoe ...I'm not sure...let us know after you check please

 

Does anyone run an oil filter on an A or B? This has been in the loft over my garage for 45 years and I'll never use it. It is in the HAMB Classifieds. Bob

 

Here's a photo I found of one, apparently they are uber rare.

 

This is a cool jigger that popped up on the 'perfect flames' thread. What are the front wheels?