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Technical ***July 2021 Banger Meet Thread - Happy 4 Cylinders!***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Jul 1, 2021.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 440


    Link to previous month:

    Old Dawg informs us there is an effort to resurrect a F.A.S.T. newsletter but it would require 400 subscribers (minimum number to attract vendors). Subscription price is unknown at this point (2021/7/1) but if you are interested send an email to

    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    Monterey Car Week August 7th - 14th, 2021
    Bonneville Speedweek August 7th - 13th, 2021
    Hot Rod Hill Climb Sept 17th - 18th, 2021
    49th Running of the Antique Nationals October 17th 2021-Irwindale Speedway

    Stay safe.

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    phone: 951-695-7313.

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post

    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:

    New Banger Block in the Works

    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
  2. Checking in!
    Much hasn't changed from last month as I've been working on the suspension for the T.
    Engine needs one more coat of paint, I ran out halfway (as you can see)

    Got a few parts bolted up to the banger. Gasket kit should be getting here soon, but I'm in need of a decent timing gear for the front.

    I got my waterpump from Sacramento Vintage Ford, they bored it to accept a large ball bearing.
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  3. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
    Posts: 8,056


    july already ??
  4. Checking in

  5. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 4,041

    from Colorado


    Three cylinder Tahatso cruising Vallecito
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  6. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
    Posts: 1,407

    from WY

    Checking in from the unseasonably (unreasonably?) hot Rocky Mountains...
  7. G_Don
    Joined: Feb 17, 2017
    Posts: 58


    Anyone running a thomas head? What did you use for your distributor shaft? The head is 0.25" taller than stock, but distributor shafts available from retailers never come with a lengh dimension in the product description.

    My current one is 5.75" and I need one that is 6"... will I just need to have this made? And if so, does it need to be hardened steel or is soft ok?

    Thanks for your time,
  8. Not rushing it, SpeedWeek is coming too damn fast.
    Trans in push truck fixed, race car is going back together.
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  9. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
    Posts: 3,299


    I made mine out of drill rod. (O-1 un heat treated)

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  10. Checking in
    Parts arrived from the states, always a good day
    Got the gearbox in for a trail fit, enough room for the t t clamshell
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  11. Dustyp489
    Joined: Feb 1, 2008
    Posts: 212


    Checking in, not much going on
  12. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,326

    from middle ca.

    same ole commy ca.
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  13. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 701


    Chasing tail on the dating is that a jungle,all kinds out there.The model A is a great trolling lure,plenty of hits :)
  14. atleast we're not on fire YET!
  15. Easy on that, it has been hot enough for spontaneous combustion.

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  16. Phil Damon
    Joined: May 8, 2020
    Posts: 55

    Phil Damon
    from San Diego

    I'm in. Still waiting on parts.
  17. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
    Posts: 1,407

    from WY

    @G_Don -my Brierley head came with a longer distributor shaft. I don't know if Jim makes them or sources them from someone else. You might check with him...
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2021
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  18. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,238


  19. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 701


    Got a funny one.. this woman hits me up and we start texting.. the usual first time stuff, twenty five questions about shit you don't want to talk about.. but I play pretty good.. this one however was deadly, I can talk a good game but she's pinning me down like a tail on a donkey. Get all done and i tell her Im an old knuckle dragger mechanic.. she smiles and says shes a criminal defense lawyer..
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  20. 6ABD95F7-AE56-44A0-9956-5F548C4C4071.jpeg 6A64DDAC-B6F3-4994-B961-59D485C6D650.jpeg Been hella day
    Started with course prep at ElMirage for next weekend
    Then Son Owen putting body mounts on chassis
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  21. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,733

    from wyoming

    Checking in from Cheyoming.
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  22. Popped to a local company at the weekend to fit a set of their prototype Model A shocks. Plan is to to clock some miles on them driving the pretty route through the mountains down to Pendine, racing on the beach, and then the long weary drive home. Then strip them down and check them over when I get back.

    As they’re just across the way from work I’ve been following progress. Supplied them with a heap of original parts to work from.





    Anyway how are they? Pretty damn impressive so far after a quick blast around the estate and a charge home along some potholed country lanes.

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  23. poshdbs
    Joined: Feb 28, 2013
    Posts: 73


    See you on the sand Phil, looking forward to it!
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  24. Just in from SCTA;
    July El Mirage meet is cancelled due to expected high temps.

  25. I was just thinking, has anyone actually ran this SoS front timing cover?
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  26. GuyW
    Joined: Feb 23, 2007
    Posts: 590


    Hey Retson:

    Does this car look familiar? It came to me from your neighborhood

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  27. Outback
    Joined: Mar 4, 2005
    Posts: 1,654

    from NE Vic

    Gday all, at work we play with bangers however mostly continental vintage/veteran types.
    We also have a gaggle of specials about.
    Its for one of these I ask the question.
    We are trying to avoid getting getting a crown wheel & pinion made & need a lower diff ratio than standard. the crown wheel is smaller (in dia) than A model, I was wondering what dia is the T model crown wheel & what is the quality of the repro crown wheel/pinions like? This car will be running a 90CI HAL & get punted at race tracks. Thx
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2021
  28. nutrocker
    Joined: Jan 12, 2007
    Posts: 408


    Well, the car is finally all together and running well with just a few days left till Pendine Sands.

    I’ve had to change the exhaust to four shorties as the four into one lake style headers were glowing red at around 3000rpm. Cam overlap and waisted spark ignition means flames were heating the exhaust too much.

    It’s fun on the road though. Spinning the rears in all three gears, but the rod brakes suck. Need to spend more time than I have at present going through them.

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  29. rally1
    Joined: Oct 25, 2009
    Posts: 129


    Have just over 1k miles on mine.
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  30. I don’t reckon I’ve seen that car before. Where is he from?

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